5 o'clock tea with Denis p.1
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1.
Ali, who was working a long way from home, wanted to send a letter to his wife, but he could neither read nor write, and he had to work all day, so he could only look for somebody to write his letter late at night. At last he found the house of a letter-writer whose name was Nasreddin.
Nasreddin was already in bed. 'It is late,' he said. 'What do you want?' 'I want you to write a letter to my wife,' said Ali. Nasreddin was not pleased. He thought for a few seconds and then said, 'Has the letter got to go far?'
'What does that matter?' answered Ali. 'Well, my writing is so strange that only I can read it, and if I
have to travel a long way to read your letter to your wife, it will cost you a lot of money.'
Ali went away quickly.
Ништяки
1. артикли:
a long way from home
to write his letter late at night - поздно вечером
Nasreddin was already in bed - уже спал.
he had to work all day - весь день all vs. whole
all his life
all the time - все время
all (the) day
he sat up all night
all the year round
all England [the country, the world] - вся Англия, вся страна, весь мир
all men - все
all things - всё
all countries - все cтраны
at all times - во все времена
a film suitable for all ages - для всех возрастов
He thought for a few seconds = for a few (of) seconds
a lot of something
a few (of) seconds
both (of the) people
a few minutes/words/steps/pounds/tears/sentences and etc
2. речевые модели
he could neither read nor write - ни ... ни
if I have to travel a long way to read your letter to your wife, it will cost you a lot of money - conditional I
No doubt vs. without doubt
We can use no doubt when we think that what we are saying is likely to happen, or when we think it is true. It is similar to ‘I suppose’ or ‘I imagine’:
A: No doubt you’ll want breakfast before you leave tomorrow.
B: Yes, if that’s okay.
A: No problem.
We can use there is no doubt that … when we are very certain about our opinion.
We use it in formal situations:
He’s never won Wimbledon, but there’s no doubt that he is a great tennis player.
Not: He’s never won a Wimbledon title but no doubt he’s a great tennis player.
Without doubt is even more formal. We use it when we are absolutely certain about our opinion:
Paul McCartney is without doubt one of the greatest composers of popular music of all time.
Not: Paul McCartney is no doubt one of the greatest …
3. идиоматика
a long way from home vs. to travel a long way
a long way - далеко = большое количество времени-пространства
to go a long way - далеко пойти, зайти
to go a long way - 1) (to, towards, with) иметь большое значение, влияние 2) хватать надолго (о деньгах)
vs.
to go far away
a long way - ПЗ в стяжении, far away - ПЗ в сепарации
He was working a long way from home. Он мучился от тоски и отсутствия ПЗ, пока работал далеко от дома.
He was working far away from his house. Он был рад, что работать пришлось далеко от дома, где ждали вечно голодные дети и вечно недовольная жена.
4. дискурс
What do you want? vs. What did you want?
I want you to write a letter... vs. I would like you to write a letter.
Nasreddin was not pleased
аналогично The Tense (коммуникативная функция):
а. What price do you have in mind?
b. What price did you have in mind?
c. What do you mean by saying this?
d. What did you mean by saying this?
5. перфекты - квази-перфекты
Has the letter got to go far?
The letter has got to go far away.
6.фразовые глаголы
he could only look for somebody to write his letter late at night - искать
Ali went away quickly. - уходить, убегать
Questions:
1. Why do you think Ali, who couldn't read, decided to communicate with his illiterate wife by letter? (No doubt, she was illiterate being a muslim's wife.)
2. How could Ali even suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger, which is a strict haram in Muslim culture?
Muslim - BrE /ˈmʊzlɪm/ ; BrE /ˈmʌzlɪm/ ; BrE /ˈmʊzləm/ ; BrE /ˈmʌzləm/ .
Answers:
So, hi, Denis
The first your question is why I think Ali, who couldn't read, decided to communicate with his illiterate wife by letter.
I think Ali didn't think about it. He just thought that he was far away from his wife and she didn't know about his health and mood and etc.
And he wanted to communicate with her somehow but as I have known from the story he had to work all day.
So, I think, he went to a wise old man and him: 'How can I communicate with my wife?'
And the wise-man said to him: 'You can communicate with her by letter.'
Ali thanked the wise-man and thought to himself: 'O, that's very cool! I could find a letter writer. He could help me. He would write a letter for my wife.'
So, I think that Ali didn't realized that his wife couldn't read his letter.
Thank you.
2.
So, hi, Denis
The first your question is why Ali, who couldn't read, decided to communicate with his illiterate wife by letter.
I think Ali didn't think about a possible complication. He just thought that he was far away from his wife and she didn't know about his health and mood and so on.
So, he wanted to communicate with her somehow but as I have known from the story he had to work all day.
So, he had to find a way of remote communication.
I think that he went to a wise old man and said to him: 'How can I communicate with my wife if she is a long way from me?'
And the wise-man said to him: 'You can communicate with her by letter.'
'What is it?' Ali asked.
'You need to find somebody who can help you with letter writing' the wise-man said.
Ali thanked the wise-man and thought to himself: 'Ah, that's very cool! Now I need a letter-writer! That's all!
However, Ali didn't understand that his illiterate wife couldn't read his letter because the wise-man hadn't mentioned about it.
The first question is why Ali, who couldn't read, decided to communicate with his illiterate wife by letter.
I think Ali didn't think about a possible complication. He just thought that he was far away from his wife and she didn't know about his health and mood and so on.
So, he wanted to communicate with her somehow but as I have known from the story he had to work all day.
So, he had to find a way of remote communication.
I think that he went to a wise old man and said to him: 'How can I communicate with my wife if she is a long way from me?'
And the wise-man said to him: 'You can communicate with her by letter.'
'What is it?' Ali asked.
'You need to find somebody who can help you with letter writing' the wise-man said.
Ali thanked the wise-man and thought to himself Ah, that's very cool! Now I need a letter-writer! That's all!
However, Ali didn't understand that his illiterate wife couldn't read his letter because the wise-man hadn't mentioned about it.
The second question is how Ali could even suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger, which is a strict haram in Muslim culture.
I think that Ali didn't understand what is it a communication by letter.
He didn't understand that his wife need to know about reading and writing, at least reading, to read his message.
So, when he knew about this method of communication, he, probably, thought: 'It's some kind of magic! I speak my message to letter-writer. He wrote this message and this message somehow went to my wife.' Probably it was that.
He didn't want a stranger to speak with his wife, of course.
Maybe he went away quickly because when Nasreddin said to him that he can write letter but he had to go to Ali's wife and read this letter to her.
The second reason that Ali even suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger is that Ali supposed that a messenger wouldn't speak with his wife but he would speak to his wife, just speak Ali's message and that's all.
His wife wouldn't refuse her haram.
Thank you.
2.
The second question is how Ali could even suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger, which is a strict haram in Muslim culture.
I think that Ali didn't understand what it means to communicate by letter.
He didn't understand that his wife had to be able to read his message.
So, when he knew about this method of communication, he, probably, thought: 'It's some kind of magic! I can speak my message to a letter-writer, he will write it and then my message, somehow, will reach my wife.'
Thus Ali didn't mean a stranger to speak with his wife, of course.
Maybe he went away quickly exactly because Nasreddin was going to speak with her.
What else could make Ali suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger?
I think that Ali supposed that a messenger wouldn't speak with his wife but he would speak to his wife, just say Ali's message and that's all.
So Ali's wife could hear the message and would observe her haram.
Thank you.
The second question is how Ali could even suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger, which is a strict haram in Muslim culture.
I think that Ali didn't understand what it means to communicate by letter.
He didn't understand that his wife had to be able to read his message.
So, when he knew about this method of communication, he, probably, thought: 'It's some kind of magic! I can speak my message to a letter-writer, he will write it and then my message, somehow, will reach my wife.'
Thus Ali didn't mean a stranger to speak with his wife, of course.
Maybe he went away quickly exactly because Nasreddin was going to speak with her.
What else could make Ali suppose that his wife would speak with a stranger?
I think that Ali supposed that a messenger wouldn't speak with his wife but he would speak to his wife, just say Ali's message and that's all.
So Ali's wife could hear the message and would observe her haram.
Thank you.
My questions:
1. Why do you think it could be so easy to cheat Ali?
2. Why did Nasreddin prefer to cheat Ali rather than just refuse to write a letter?
3. What would you answer Nasreddin to make him write a letter if you were Ali?
Some correction
1. Why do you think it could be so easy to cheat Ali?
2. Why did Nasreddin prefer to cheat Ali rather than just refusing to write a letter?
3. What would you answer Nasreddin to make him write the letter if you were Ali?
Denis' answers
1.
Okay, I think it was so easy to cheat Ali because he was an ignorant and jealous man.
Nasreddin just took advantage of his weaknesses.
Okay, I think it was so easy to cheat Ali because he was an ignorant and jealous man.
Nasreddin just took advantage of Ali's weaknesses.
Hi, Denis
Here are some comments to your answers about the first story.
Okay.
I think that you're right about Ali that he was an ignorant and jealous man and because of this it was so easy to cheat him.
I would like to add to your answer that I think that Ali couldn't read and write because he didn't want to learn reading and writing.
He didn't want to do some efforts to be more clever and more smart because his intellect wasn't resource for him.
He used to do his heavy and gruelling work.
His work was obviously some kind of hand work and that was very primitive method of using a human abilities.
So, I think that Ali was a poor man in the connatation of the English people understand the word "poor".
Thank you.
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Hi, Denis
Here are some comments to your answers about the first story.
Okay.
I think that you're right about Ali that he was an ignorant and jealous man and because of this it was so easy to cheat him.
I would like to add to your answer that, in my opinion, Ali couldn't read and write because he hadn't wanted to learn reading and writing.
He didn't consider his intellect as a resource so he didn't make an effort to advance it.
He used to do his heavy and gruelling work instead.
His work was obviously some kind of hand work and that is a very primitive method of using human abilities.
So, I think that Ali was a poor man in the English connotation of the word "poor".
Thank you.
Hi, Denis
Here are some comments to your answers about the first story.
Okay.
I think that you're right about Ali that he was an ignorant and jealous man and because of this it was so easy to cheat him.
I would like to add to your answer that, in my opinion, Ali couldn't read and write because he hadn't wanted to learn reading and writing.
He didn't consider his intellect as a resource so he didn't make an effort to advance it.
He used to do his heavy and gruelling work instead.
His work was obviously some kind of hand work and that is a very primitive method of using human abilities.
So, I think that Ali was a poor man in the English connotation of the word "poor".
Thank you.
2.
Nasreddin had a reputation of smart and inventive person.
He couldn't just refuse. It's too boring,
Nasreddin had a reputation of a smart and inventive person.
He couldn't just refuse Ali. It's too boring,
The second question.
I agree with you that Nasreddin was known as a smart and inventive person.
I would like to add to your answer that if Nasreddin had refused Ali he would have had no money and Ali would have had no letter.
So, that would be in a subtraction paradigm action because everybody is in loss.
But Nasreddin wasn't to be such person.
He did in a paradigm of increasing.
So, he offered some terms and conditions to Ali and Ali just didn't accept these terms and conditions.
So, when Nasreddin didn't refuse Ali but agreed with certain terms and conditions, he was in profit in both situations.
If Ali had offered his conditions, Nasreddin would have had a lot of money.
If Ali had refused, Nasreddin would have slept in his bed.
So, it was so.
Thank you.
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The second question.
I agree with you that Nasreddin was known as a smart and inventive person.
I would like to add to your answer that if Nasreddin had just refused to write the letter he would have had no money.
So was Ali, who would have had no letter.
So, everything would have taken place in the subtraction paradigm because everybody would have been in loss.
Nasreddin wasn't to be such a person.
He acted in a increasing paradigm.
So, he offered some conditions which Ali wasn't accept.
When Nasreddin agreed to write the letter with certain conditions, he would earn a profit in any case.
If Ali had accepted his conditions, Nasreddin would have had a lot of money.
If Ali had refused, Nasreddin would continue to sleep in his bed.
Thank you.
The second question.
I agree with you that Nasreddin was known as a smart and inventive person.
I would like to add to your answer that if Nasreddin had just refused to write the letter he would have had no money.
So was Ali, who would have had no letter.
So, everything would have taken place in the subtraction paradigm because everybody would have been in loss.
Nasreddin wasn't to be such a person.
He acted in the increasing paradigm.
So, he offered some conditions which Ali wasn't accept.
When Nasreddin agreed to write the letter with certain conditions, he would earn a profit in any case.
If Ali had accepted his conditions, Nasreddin would have had a lot of money.
If Ali had refused, Nasreddin would continue to sleep in his bed.
Thank you.
3.
If I was Ali and knew the reputation of Nasreddin I'd rather go (?) instead of being fooled like a moron.
If I were Ali and I knew Nasreddin's reputation I'd rather go away instead of being fooled like a moron.
The third questions and my ideas about possible actions of Ali.
If I were Ali I would try to notice Nasreddin about my late visit, somehow.
Secondly, when I would come I would appologise about my late visit.
And I would certainly be more polite with Nasreddin and, probably, he wouldn't chate me with his tricks.
But as you can see, Nasreddin didn't refuse to write a letter.
He just offered to write a letter with some conditions.
And if this conditions wouldn't fit me, I try to make Nasreddin help me some other way.
Maybe to write letter to my relatives or some another way.
Thank you.
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The third questions and my ideas about possible actions of Ali.
If I were Ali I would try to notice Nasreddin about my late visit, somehow.
Secondly, when I would come, I would appologise about my late visit.
And I would certainly be more polite with Nasreddin and, probably, he wouldn't cheat me.
But as you can see, Nasreddin didn't refuse to write the letter.
He just offered to write it with some conditions.
If these conditions didn't fit me, I would try to make Nasreddin help me some other way, for example, writing the letter in common language to my relative who can read.
Thank you.
The third questions and my ideas about possible actions of Ali.
If I were Ali I would try to notice Nasreddin about my late visit, somehow.
Secondly, when I would come in I would apologise about my late visit.
And I would certainly be more polite with Nasreddin and, probably, he wouldn't cheat me.
But as you can see, Nasreddin didn't refuse to write the letter.
He just offered to write it with some conditions.
If these conditions didn't fit me, I would try to make Nasreddin help me some other way, for example, writing the letter in common language to my relative who can read.
Thank you.