Vienna 2017 Our Next Meeting

Talking to Patients about Things They Don’t Want to Know.Friday 9th to Sunday 11th June 2017

At the Vienna Psychoanalytic Academy (Vienna, Salzgries 16/3).


Registration is normally restricted to members of the International Psychoanalytic Association (IPA) and invited guests.


The meeting will consist of moderated small group clinical workshops. They last about ten hours over a series of session in a small group. They use the CCM method to discuss a presenter's work (usually two sessions) in depth. The workshops are informed by the ongoing work of the CCM Association for the past sixteen years and informal large-group presentations about the Moderators' groupwork over the last year - this year focusing on the theme talking to patients.

The CCM method, originally developed as part of the European Psychoanalytic Federation's Ten Year Scientific Initiative involves structuring discussion in steps - ordinary clinical discussion focused on the presenter's work in the sessions, close focus on the function of each of the presenter's interventions (Step 1) and construction of the presenter's working model of psychoanalysis (Step 2). These formulations are then further discussed in the moderators' group some months later and the overall thoughts fed back to the workshop group and the presenter.

Each day there will also be large group meetings which the chance for the thinking that has taken place in the moderators' group since the last year to be shared and discussed.

Talking to Patients about Things they don’t want to know.

This year's theme has emerged from the 2016 workshops and the subsequent moderators' discussions.

Most presenters in our groups , like most psychoanalysts, at some point or another believe it useful to talk to their patients about things the patient is unwilling or frightened to know –terms like unconscious, splitting, repression, disavowal are often used to describe what patients do not know and/or how they go on not knowing.

The matter raises obvious questions.

How do we come to know what a patient is not aware they know? What sort of things do analysts to think their patients do not know or are unwilling to know? How and why do analysts set about trying to make patients aware? What is working through, does it fit in here and how is it achieved?

We have found these questions are especially interesting. Analysts in our week-end groups quite often suggest their patients are unwilling to know their thoughts or do not wish to recognise they feel vulnerable,or perhaps, needy, dependent, hateful, loving, murderous, cruel, envious, etc. But it is not always clear how this works or how an analyst thinks it can be overcome.

In Vienna in 2016 we had three examples: a patient who couldn't bear to know he felt vulnerable, little and frightened or that these feelings make him behave in omnipotent and controlling way; a patient who can’t bear to know how much he felt dependent on his analyst and a patient whose analyst thought her patient could not tolerate any interpretation about his relationship to his analyst and so felt this had become a "no go" area.

Some of this seems to have come up in Vienna 2016 because the moderators group had altered the Step 2 formulation. For the first time we were explicit about asking each other how we thought the presenting analyst thought any interpretations were internalised. And we also tried to ask what it seems has to be done by patient and analyst to make that possible.

Clearly, how and what to interpret is central to psychoanalytic work and justifies further reflection. The 2017 meeting will, therefore, contain some plenary sessions in which moderators will explore this topic further and we hope all present will join us. If any participant wants to present or circulate a short paper please contact us.


Large Group Plenaries Friday and Saturday Afternoon, Sunday morning.

We will devote the first plenary to some discussion of the progress of the project in 2017 - reflecting on the evolution of the two step method, the role of the workshop groups, the work of the moderators and what we are finding out about talking to patients about things they don't seem to want to know. The moderators meet to discuss the workshops and we have been mulling over the issues and experiences. It is is this that leads us to think it will be useful to discuss what we mean by working under unconscious threat and how it can be managed.

On Saturday afternoon we will elaborate our thinking and hope to facilitate discussion in the groups by feeding back some of the core issues relevant to the theme.

Sunday morning will be an opportunity for evaluation and feedback.

Invitation to Participants to present in the Workshops.

If you would like to present an analytic case in the workshops or if you have suggestions about how you might like to participate in the project please contact

If you want to present, it should be an "ordinary" analytic case progressing in what you see as an "ordinary" way.


Vienna is an easy city to visit. Our meeting place is at walking distance from:

City Centre, Stephans Dome, Imperial Castle.

10 Min.

Sigmund Freud Museum Berggasse 19:

15 Mins.

Kunsthistorisches Museum (Museum of Fine Arts)

20 Mins away.

Moderators in 2017

The workshops will be moderated by one or two moderators who have experience of CCM groups and take part in the moderator groups.

The moderators and CCM members organising the 2017 symposium are:

Dana Birksted-Breen: British Psychoanalytical SocietyOlivier Bonard : Société Suisse de PsychanalyseGeorg Bruns: German Psychoanalytical AssociationAnna Christopoulos: Hellenic Psychoanalytic Society Michael Diercks: Vienna Psychoanalytic

SocietyEike Hinze: German Psychoanalytical AssociationMarinella Linardos: Italian Psychoanalytic Association.Regine Prat: Paris Psychoanalytic SocietyJordi Sala (Spanish Psychoanalytic Society)Michael Sebek: Czech Psychoanalytic Society

David Tuckett: British Psychoanalytical Society


320 Euros for participants enrolled before March 31st 2017, 370 Euros thereafter. The fee covers participation in all events and coffee and snacks during the meeting Participants make their own arrangements about meals.

Hotels and Accommodation

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Registration, Administration and Payment

The Association is “virtual” and the Vienna societies are not able to receive phone calls or provide information. You register by completing the form available at the link below and then by sending an Internet money transfer to the association’s bank account in Lausanne. Please be sure that your money transfer refers to the name with which you register. Registration only takes place when the money is received. Please check your bank account. We will send receipts and confirmation in a few days. Tax receipts will be made available at the meeting.

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