Saxifraga parnassifolia


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Flora of Chakrata: Saxifraga sp from Budher Caves Road Chakrata
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Saxifraga sp from Budher Caves Road Chakrata
My id is Saxifraga parnassifolia
This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....
 
 
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VOF Week: Saxifraga parnassifolia at VOF: I think this herb is Saxifraga parnassifolia (Family: Saxifragaceae).
Date/Time: 08-08-2012 / 07:30AM
Location:
VOF
Habitat: Wild
Yes ... We also got this one from Chakrata.

This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....


 
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VOF Week: Saxifraga parnassifolia for validation: This species was shot from near the entry gate to Valley of Flowers on august 14, 2012..I hope this is Saxifraga parnassifolia..
I think Yes This was also shot from
Chakata
This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....


 
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VoF Week : Saxifraga brachypoda: Saxifraga brachypoda of Saxifragaceae family
Valley of Flowers National Park
14th August 2012
I think this could be Saxifraga parnassifolia.
yes ..., Makes sense....I am sorry for wrongly posting it.

Nothing like S.brachypoda. This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....

 
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Saxifraga parnassifolia ABJUL01/12 : 5 posts by 3 authors. 3 images.
While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.
Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1900m
31 August, 2014.
I think yes. Ignore/crop twig on the right which may cause confusion. Better photos at efi thread.
You are right ... These are again from 2014 when I did not know better. I hope to find these again to photograph them properly this time. Could the leaves on the right be of Oplismenus compositus?

These beautiful golden yellow flowers are plentiful at higher slopes. I am sharing some photos here.
Saxifraga parnassifolia
21 August 2016
4 images.
You are correct, this is Saxifraga parnassifolia. So you have photographed this and S.moorcroftiana (from a higher elevation) in HP.  In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....
I think in light of your images and my better understanding of the differences between the two species, ALL previous records of both species need reviewing in herbaria and their distribution, altitudinally and geographically needs reviewing.
A clear lesson that one needs to check. I could have assumed all the postings for S.parnassifolia were correct because the first ones were (and the last, this one) but others turned out to be S.moorcroftiana.
The images posted by yourself and others on eFI have been informative to complement characteristics observed on herbarium specimens - which is the future, to combine digital photos, living specimens in cultivation of known provenance and traditional pressed specimens.
 

 
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Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb5B for Id- JM - efloraofindia | Google Groups: (Mixed thread): 5 posts by 3 authors. 3 correct images as above.
 on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.);
These images may not be of Saxifraga moorcroftiana

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I think 3rd image is of some other plant.

I think Saxifraga moorcroftiana
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Saxifraga moorcroftiana Wall. Numer. List [Wallich] n. 453.
Type:  Sine Collector, Sine date, sine number, Kamoon; Academy of Natural Sciences (PH) Acc No. PH00022566
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... was correct to have doubts. This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region. Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....


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Requested to please ID these yellow flowers seen on the way from Govindghat to Ghangria in August 2018. They were clicked at various places on the way.

On going through the Saxifragaceae pages in efi, this seems to be Saxifraga parnassifolia.
Could you please validate?

Looks somewhat different at first glance as per 

Other recipients:
I guess it is matching. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
I guess it is matching.

I guess you mean it is matching with S. parnassifolia.

Yes, I mean so. 

I think more closer to images and details at Saxifraga moorcroftiana rather than those at Saxifraga parnassifolia

Saxifraga diversifolia to me.

Thanks ... Is S. diversifolia a syn. of S. moorcroftiana?
No, ...

Thanks ..., yes, on closer examination, there seem to be 2 sets, the first 4 images have been taken enroute Ghangaria from Gobindghat. The second set was taken at Hemkund.

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Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don : 7 posts by 1 author. 7 images- 6 to 7 mb each.
Location: Kathmandu Valley
Date:  October 2020 
Elevation: 2700m.
Habitat  : Wild


Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don
Similar to S. moorcroftiana (basal leaves elliptic to lanceolate, attenuate at base, apex acute) but easily separated by basal leaves being broadly ovate, subcordate with obtuse apex.
Photographed from near Budher Caves Chakrata, 18-9-2011.



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