Ventilago denticulata


Andaman Is., Bangladesh, Cambodia, East Himalaya, India, Laos, West Himalaya as per POWO;

V. denticulata has larger leaves with prominent veins. Stems usually striate and green. Large stems striate with red and black. It is found in deciduous forests and less in evergreen. It is a large liana.
V. maderaspatana stems dry blackish, leaves are smaller and often more acute at the apex. It is found more in evergreen forests and rarely in deciduous patches. It also can be a very large plant covering many trees.


 

Images by Balkar Singh, Identification by Nayan Singh (Inserted by J.M.Garg) 

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Flora of Madhya Pradesh: 04022012 BS-3 Large climbing shrub for id from Pani khoh Maihar MP:  13 images.
Large climbing shrub for id from Pani khoh Maihar MP
Growing wildly there, Large much branched shrub shot on 20-1-12
pls id
Ventilago denticulata
Thanks ... After searching i could not find any concrete information about this. can this also be Ventilago maderaspatana any way
Ventilago denticulata Willd is syn to V. maderaspatana Roxb.
I was confused ... as in theplantlist.org both these names are accepted
I do not know the recent development.
As per the Flora of Raipur Durg and Rajnandgaon it is mentioned as following -
Ventilago denticulata Willd. in Ges. Naturf. Fr. Neue Schr. 3 : 417. 1801. V. maderaspatana Roxb. Pl. Corom. 1 : 55. t. 76. 1796-98; non Gaertn. 1788. V. calyculata Tulasne in Ann. Sc. Nat. sec 4. 8 : 124. 1857. V. maderaspatana var. calyculata King in J. As. Soc. Bengal 65 : 378. 1896.
yes ... This is Ventilago denticulata for sure. I wl post my image taken from Odisha. A very common climber. The fruits are used to extract oil in tribal belt.
 
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WILD CREEPER FOR ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5).
I found this wild creeper with winged seeds at YAWATMAL,MAHARASHTRA 
on 3/5/2014 
Please identify 
Could be some Ventilago sp..
Ventilago calyculata
thank you for thanks for validating


 
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Hello, I can not Identify the above plant, ..this looks like lina...its located near Palghar district.
I wish your leaf pictures were a bit clearer! But it looks like Ventilago denticulata Willd. (syn. Ventilago calyculata). The stem has characteristic red fissures. It is seen in Palghar district.

 
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along KSH 34 between Malamba & Gundolli :: Ventilago maderaspatana :: DVFEB50/83 : 1 post by 1 author. 4 images.
along Karnataka State Highway No. 34 ... between Malamba & Gundolli
Date: 15 OCT 2011 ... Altitude: about 640 m asl
Ventilago maderaspatana Gaertn. ... (family: Rhamnaceae) 

Can it be Ventilago denticulata as per images and details herein ?
It may be possible ... I have gone with my belief.
Let us wait for validating comments; will go with ID that gets concluded.
It may well be V. denticulata. Do you have any close ups of leaves or flowers?

Thank you … The first picture in the post is the only one that shows leaves, the closest. The second picture shows lower surface of leaves, quality of picture is bare minimum :)
I am putting cropped versions of them here; hopefully they help in ID.
2 images.


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Ventilago maderaspatana (Rhamnaceae) : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1)
Ventilago maderaspatana (Rhamnaceae)
Large Climber, branches woody, leaves alternate, elliptic-ovate, Habitat - Evergreen Forest
2015 October, Thane, Maharashtra
Photo - Mandar Sawant, Sushant More 
Can it be Ventilago denticulata as per images and details herein ?
Yes, It is
Not easy for me to recognize the species, the reddish (striated) stem helps in knowing V. denticulata.
Hopefully ... comments.
Unable to decide with this one. Leaves are not typical of V. maderaspatana. Can't see the habit. Both species found in the area.

 
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Id pl-Satkosia-Odisa 1 : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (4)
Id pl of the plant from Satkosia, Odisa, seen in mid Oct 19.
The flowers remind of Ziziphus family, Rhamnaceae.
Looks like Ventilago denticulata Willd. (syn. Ventilago calyculata), unless there is another species in Odisha
very interesting. apparently, a liana.

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Please help with id'ing this : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)- 1 mb. 
This is the seed pod of a robust liana I encountered on a walk on a hillside near Bhopal lake. Please help with botanical id. 

Ventilago maderaspatana
Pl. show us the leaves clearly.
I feel it may be Ventilago denticulata Willd. as per keys in Flora of China
It appears to be Ventilago denticulata Willd

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Pls identify this plant......Is this a member of Dipterocarpaceae family..?

As far as my knowledge this is some species of Hopea !! H be H pubescens but not sure, kindly validate

Looks like Ventilago species.
Are you indicating towards Ventilago leiocarpa ??
The key in FoC leads to Ventilago maderaspatana (Panicles terminal, fruits glabrous, lateral nerves ca 4 pairs etc.). But we need more details and better pictures to confirm the id.
The close up can really help us out !1
Can it be Ventilago denticulata Willd. as per comparative images at Ventilago‎ ?
Yes, it is, …
Thanks, … I get confused time and again.
What are the keys given for Maharashtra?
Are our posts correctly identified at Ventilago denticulata and Ventilago madraspatana ?
It might be a Dipterocarpaceae member, hopefully Hopea sp. 
Thanks, ..., Looks different from Hopea as per comparative images herein.
Also looks different from comparative images at Dipterocarpaceae
Looks close to images at Ventilago denticulata

I am taking V. denticulata Willd. to be a syn of V. calyculata Tulasne. and V. maderaspatana Gaertn (or madraspatana) to be a distinct species. There has been confusion in the names with different authors.
In my area both of these as well as V. bombaiensis are found and it is easy to differentiate them in the field, especially when in fruit.
All the images at V. maderaspatana seem to be correct.
I have a doubt about the first set of pictures under V. denticulata. They seem to be V. maderaspatana, as long as they are all of the same plant. The new leaves are clearly seen in the 4th picture, bottom line on the left. In fact if you click on the image it is correctly labelled.
As for keys, I don't know which to follow.
V. bombaiensis is easy because flowers and fruit are in axillary fascicles. The leaves have glands in the axils of nerves on the underside. It is restricted to evergreen forests.
V. denticulata has larger leaves with prominent veins. Stems usually striate and green. Large stems striate with red and black. It is found in deciduous forests and less in evergreen. It is a large liana.
V. maderaspatana stems dry blackish, leaves are smaller and often more acute at the apex. It is found more in evergreen forests and rarely in deciduous patches. It also can be a very large plant covering many trees.
Hope this can be of some use.
 
 
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: Photographed at my farm at Shahapur today. Wasn't planning on posting these, so unfortunately don't have any more details. 

It could be a Ventilago species (Rhamnaceae).

Ventilago maderaspatana

Can it be Ventilago denticulata Willd. as per comparative images at Ventilago ?
Yes, it is


 
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Climber ID needed:  Planted this 10 years ago in my garden, which I collected from my farm.... thinking it was some tree, but turned out to be a climber, and now it had grown big and has engulfed my Cassia fistula tree. Appreciate this climber id.

Date/Time- August 2011

Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Hyderabad

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Garden

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Climber

Height/Length- 5-8 meters

Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Simple


Check with Ventilago species, family: Rhamnaceae (may be Ventilago maderaspatan?)


In Ventilago spp, leaf margin is serrate/dentate.

Thanks a lot, checked some pictures on the net and it definetely matches Ventilago maderaspatan. Also forgot to mention that the seeds are one-winged.


Can it be Ventilago denticulata as per images and details herein ?
... the image Climber ID5.jpg does not seem to show red striated stem - characteristic of V. denticulata. Thus may not be it.
The stem is uncharacteristic for sure. I think V. maderaspatana can be ruled out because the leaves don't match.
Not sure what it could be.

I feel it may also be Ventilago denticulata as per comparative images at Ventilago
Pl. confirm.
It does look like that
 

 
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