Maesa indica

Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 17(1): 134 134 1834. (syn: Baeobotrys indica Roxb.; Maesa elmeri Mez; Maesa elongata (A. DC.) Mez; Maesa grossedentata Mez; Maesa indica var. coriacea A. DC.;  Maesa indica var. perrottetiana (A. DC.) Clarke; Maesa laxa Mez; Maesa neocoriacea S.S.R. Bennet; Maesa perrottetiana A. DC.; Maesa ramosii Quisumb. & Merr.);     

Taiwan, India, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Thailand, Myanmar [Burma] (Chin, Kachin, Mandalay, Shan, Taninthayi), Jammu & Kashmir (Kashmir), Bangladesh, Nepal, Philippines (throughout), Laos, Vietnam as per Catalogue of Life;

Native of the lower Himalayas, India, Sri Lanka and Malaysia as per Flora of Pakistan;
 
MAY-suh -- from the Arabic vernacular name maas ... Dave's Botanary
IN-dih-kuh or in-DEE-kuh -- of or from India ... Dave's Botanary

commonly known as: wild berry, wild tea, wind berryAssamese: awuapat, machhpora, sesu • Bengali: ramjaniGaro: samnakhatokGarhwali: gadchiana, jiundaliHindi: कृमिघ्न फल kramighna phalKannada: ಗುಡ್ಡೆ ಹರಗಿ gudde haragi, ಮಂಡಸೆ mandaseKhasi: dieng sohjala-tyrkaiKonkani: आटकी atakiKumaoni: nagapadheraLepcha: purmo-kungMalayalam: കിരിതീ kiriti, കുറ്റിവിഴാൽ kuttivizhaalManipuri: ar-ngengMarathi: आटकी atakiNepali: बिलाउने bilaune, कृमिघ्न फल krimighna phalTamil: பெரிய உன்னி periya-unni  


The fruits look similar to Embelia basaal, however persistent calyx are observed here.
ID please
Date/Time : April 30, 2009 at 8.45am IST
Location Place : Koraigad base, Lonavala
Altitude : about 813 m (above mean sea level)
GPS : around 18°37'31.67"N, 73°23'5.16"E
Habitat : wild, scrub forest at mountain base
Type : deciduous forest
Plant
Habit : shrub
Height : about 1.5 m
Length : - not a climber -
Leaves
Type : simple, not sure of arrangement, margin entire - not sure, mixed plants.
Shape
: elliptic, tip acuminate, base rounded
Size : about 10 - 12 cm x 5 - 6 cm
Inflorescence
Type : raceme
Size : not sure.
Flowers
Size
: do not know
Colour : do not know
Calyx : do not know ... seen to be persistent in fruits
Bracts : - no bracts -
Fruits
Type : berry-like
Shape
: globose
Size : about 4 - 5 mm, not sure
Seeds : do not know

This obviously an Embelia species, The point which you are pointing towards regarding the persistent calyx remind me of a species which I once saw in Bihar region. I think it looks quite close to that plant, hence I will go for Embelia robusta Roxb.(Synonym:Ribesoides robustum (Roxb.) Kuntze) it has 5 persistent calyx on fruits, flowers are greenish white and fruits have persistent styles too !! your fruit seems to have a projection at the apex it can be the persistent style!!
I think it is Maesa indica, as the ovary/fruit is perigynous.
In Maesa indica the persistent calyx lobes closed at fruit apex and also the fruits have longitudinal ribs which is absent in this plant I hope !!!

Yes it is Maesa indica

Yes! Maesa indica.


Maesa indica (Myrsinaceae) from Manipur.

Nice close-ups.
Tentative description of the plant from Flora of China
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016852
do you think this plant is distributed in Western peninsula of India ?
Yes, ... It is reported to occur throughout the W.Ghats. Its also common in E.Ghats.


 
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ID No. 05042011 RD09: Please Help to identify this wild Herb sp.
Date/Time- 5/4/2011- 10 AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-  Buxa Tiger Reserve, West Bengal,
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild Type
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Herb or shrub
Height/Length-  3-7X2-4cm
Inflorescence Type/ Size- as seen in the photos
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- white,
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- not seen

- This is Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. of Myrsinaceae.


 
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requesting for identification: 1 image- 1 Mb.
photographed on 11.12.2011
place: jamboti forest area, belgaum, karnataka (part of westren ghat)
local name: vayu vidanga
type:shrub
leaves:simple alternate flowers not fragrant
Maesa indica, Myrsinaceae


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Shrub for identification 070212MK02: 9 images.
Please help me to id this species.
Location: Sirumalai, Dindigul dist., TN
Altitude: c. 1600 m asl
Date: 05 May 2011
Habit: Shrub (on roadside)
Leaves: c. 12x5 cm; serrate
Fruits: 0.4cm across; raceme
Flowers: 0.2 - 0.3 cm across; white (observed yesterday)
Maesa indica...
Thanks for the identification ... This shrub is Maesa indica (Roxb.) DC. of Myrsinaceae.


 
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Id Please!: 2 images.
Please help me in identifying this shrub from Assam. It usually grows in shady places, about 5 feet high.
Maesa indica of Myrsinaceae.


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identification no140214sn2 : Attachments (3). 6 posts by 5 authors.
Help needed to Id.could this be Pavetta indica?
date/time:nov12
location:ambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune
habitat:wild
plant habit:--
height:4-5ft.

Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC.
When thinking about any Rubiaceae member (..like Pavetta), remember always that the leaves are OPPOSITE 
I think this is Maesa indica
Oh Yes. Missed observing closely.
Agree with ..
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Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC
Maesa indica
Maesa indica 

Maesa indica (Roxb.) DC, (= M. perotettiana A. DC) Myrsinaceae; wild shrub from Kolli hills Tamilnadu at an altitude of 1200m


 
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Myrsinaceae: Maesa indica (अटकी)
Mahabaleshwar

Yes ..., nice photo.


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Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Myrsinaceae- Maesa Indica from Lonavala-PKA5 : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3) 
This one was photographed at Korigad. 
Common name: Atki 
Scientific name: Maesa Indica
Family: Myrsinaceae
Its a large shrub / tree around 3 to 4 metres. Its branches are covered with corky pores (lenticellate). 
 
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Maesa indica---for sharing and validation : 2 posts by 1 author. Attachments (4)- 1 Mb or more. 
Pic of Wild Berry, taken at ambyvalley rd., lonavala, pune in oct13.
 
hopefully Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. is distributed in Gujarat; please help with local name in native script.
I have seen Maesa indica only in Maharashtra. I don't know about the current distribution status of this plant in Gujarat and can't find a mention of it in some of the references on the flora of Gujarat that I have checked. 
I just spoke to an old veteran - ...- who grows a wide variety of medicinal plants on his property near Halvad in Surendranagar, Gujarat. He has cultivated this plant through seeds sourced from Kerala. The Gujarati name of this plant that he has told me is Khoti (False) Vavdingખોટી વાવડિંગ.
Shall definitely update you in case I come across any more information.


via Species‎ > ‎M‎ > Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. ... family: Myrsinaceae 
Flowers of India Discussions at efloraofindia more views in flickr more views on Google Earth
MAY-suh -- from the Arabic vernacular name maas ... Dave's Botanary
IN-dih-kuh or in-DEE-kuh -- of or from India ... Dave's Botanary
commonly known as: wild berry, wild tea, wind berryAssamese: awuapat, machhpora, sesu • Bengali: ramjaniGaro: samnakhatokGarhwali: gadchiana, jiundaliHindi: कृमिघ्न फल kramighna phalKannada: ಗುಡ್ಡೆ ಹರಗಿ gudde haragi, ಮಂಡಸೆ mandaseKhasi: dieng sohjala-tyrkaiKonkani: आटकी atakiKumaoni: nagapadheraLepcha: purmo-kungMalayalam: കിരിതീ kiriti, കുറ്റിവിഴാൽ kuttivizhaalManipuri: ar-ngengMarathi: आटकी atakiNepali: बिलाउने bilaune, कृमिघ्न फल krimighna phalTamil: பெரிய உன்னி periya-unni
botanical names: Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. ... synonyms: Baeobotrys indica Roxb. • Maesa dubia (Wall.) DC • Maesa perrottetiana A.DC ... Biotik 
Very beautiful..!!
Thank you very much ... for the appreciation.


 
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ANNOV11 Maesa indica : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (9)
Nelliyampathy, Kerala
6th November 2014

Beautiful pics …


 
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Kindly help with the ID of this tree photographed from along road from Chopta to Mandal, Uttarakhand on June 2, 2013  
I am not sure but seems Maesa sp. to me.
you may be right. I got suggestion of Maesa indica on Facebook Indian Flora also.


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Maesa indica-----for sharing : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Pictures taken at Aambyvalley Rd., Lonavala, Pune in Feb 16.


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MS March, 2018/15 Maesa sp. for ID : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Location : Tamdil, Mizoram
Date : 15-03-2018
Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild

Pl. check 

Maesa indica


 
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Maesa indica----for sharing and validation : 16 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
photos taken at Aambyvalley Td., Off Lonavala, Mah., India in March 17.
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attaching another image. Attachments (1)

I also think closer to images at Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC.

I think Cordia monoica; more relation to leaf and Inflorescence.


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attaching some more photos for further clarity.
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I have found some old photos (May 16) which match the original 2 photos i posted. Now i too have doubts if this is Maesa indica. It is possible i mixed the other photos with original. Please have a look.
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First i must thank Paradesi ji for pointing out the discrepancy of my ID., as it would have remained misidentified. I too believe this is not Maesa indica. I have come across this plant (Shrub?) many times but ignored it so i can photograph it when i see some flowers on it but I never saw any flowers, may be I missed them or were not visible to me.This looked to be a small shrub. I don't know if this is Cordia monoica until it is validated by somebody.
thanks again ...

It is no where near Cordia monoica as per details and images herein.
Pl. check images and details at Maesa indica
To me appears close.

Yes even I feel it is nowhere near Cordia monoica. As far as Maesa indica may be. I hope to take some more photos this year if possible.
Thanks ... for your valued input

It is Maesa indica to me!

thanks, ... confirmed!


 
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MS Dec,2018/08 Maesa sp. for Id. : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)
Location : Tan, Mizoram
Altitude : 1,500 - 1,800 m.
Date : 06-12-2018
Habit : Wild.
Habitat : Shrub

Thanks, ..., What are the species reported from your area?
Also check comparative images at 

Maesa chisia, M.indica, M.montana, M.paniculata and M.ramentacea are recorded in Mizoram


 
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MS March, 2019/05 Maesa sp. for Id : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Location : Vaphai, Mizoram
Date : 20-03-2019
Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild

What are the species available in your area ?
Pl. check comparative images at Maesa  

Maesa montana A.DC. ??

 

 
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Tamhini ghat near Pune, MH :: Fern for ID :: ARK2019-74 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
This plant was seen in the vicinity of a waterfall in the Tamhini ghat near Pune, MH in Aug 2019.
Requested to please ID.


Measa indica ??
Thank you … for the possible ID. Would appreciate feedback from others as well.
To me also appears to be Maesa indica, which is possibly the only species distributed in peninsular India as per details at Maesa

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Trip to Khaiyang Phung, Manipur: 1 correct image as above.
 
Following a recent trip to Manipur (November) I have just found your wonderful Google Group. I made a trip out to climb a remote mountain called Khaiyang Phung in Manipur and came across a number of plants I couldn't identify. (actually hundreds!) I hope you are able to help. I have attached a couple to start with.
The purple berries were found at 2500m and the Symplocos was 1900m
The trip was amazing and the forests were some of the most unspoiled I have visited anywhere in the world

I had been researching rooftop vegetable growing and had run into some wonderful stuff including one in Reading (I remembered Reading because it had something to do with Quakers) ... a few weeks ago... and today looked up your edulis website... so connected the dots...
Looking forward to your queries from the northeast// manipur ... And
I imagine you would be willing to give us some useful tips in future? My interest is esp in mixing my own soil-less soil. A difficult task in India right now... may be because I do not know enough of horticulture... did you mix your own soil for the rooftop in Reading?
I didn't get an ID on the send one but it could be Maesa sp?
There are two different species. Second one could be Maesa sp.
The second plant may be a Maesa sp rather than Symplocos..
White fruits one is Maesa indica (Myrsinacese)


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MS March, 2018/16 Maesa sp. fo Id : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Aizawl, Mizoram
Date : 25-11-2013
Habit : Wild

Pl. check 

Maesa montana ?

I derived the keys from Flora of China as below (Maesa montana in red and Maesa indica in blue):
1Branchlet apex hirsute, hirtellous, puberulent, pilose, velutinous, or brown scaly. (2)
+Branchlet apex glabrous or glandular granulose, early glabrescent. (16)

2 (1)Branchlets brown scaly. (3)
+Branchlets white pilose-tomentulose or brown velutinous tomentulose, hirsute, or hirtellous and reddish glandular granulose. (4)

4 (2)Branchlets white pilose-tomentulose or brown velutinous-tomentulose. (5)
+Branchlets hirsute or stramineous hirtellous and reddish glandular granulose. (9)
    
5 (4)Branchlets white pilose-tomentulose. (6)
+Branchlets brown velutinous-tomentulose. (7)

6 (5)Leaf blade leathery, secondary veins connected by submarginal vein 3 Maesa cavinervis
+Leaf blade membranous, secondary veins free to margin, without submarginal vein 4 Maesa montana

16 (1)Branchlet apex glabrous. (17)
+Branchlet apex glandular granulose, early glabrescent. (19)
19 (16)Leaf blade margin undulate, subentire, or entire. (20)
+Leaf blade margin serrate or serrate-dentate. (24)
24 (19)Petiole 2-4 cm. (25)
+Petiole 1-1.8 cm. (26)
26 (24)Calyx lobe and bracteoles obtuse to rounded apically; inflorescence rachis and pedicels densely and minutely glandular granulose 26 Maesa indica
+Calyx lobe and bracteoles acute apically; inflorescence rachis and pedicels glabrous. (27)

Pl. check and decide.

Sir, you are rt.

Maesa indica looks correct ID for me !

 
please help with the name "ramjani" of Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. in native script.
Reference: India Biodiversity Portal
I am not sure, it may be রমজানী or রামজানি or রমজনী,.... please check the attached entries from Piddington, Roxburgh, Prain, Voigt for other names and related info.
... may help, for it is native to his place.
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Thanks very much ... for digging into literature.
Mulmooriya seems to be name of M. nemoralis (Baeobotrys nemoralis) indigenous to Sylhet - not sure if synonymous to M. indica.
I will be happy to get "ramjani" in Bangla script with valid spelling.
I do not know, for neither Roxburgh nor Voigt provided any Bengali name. The name, in English script, can be found in Haines and Prain though.
A story goes : One SAHIB, in those British days, asked his orderly what is the Bengali of "Close the door?" The orderly replied, "DARJA BANDHO KARO." The SAHIB remarked, "Got it, There-was-a brown crow!"
"RAM" usually denotes to anything bigger, as in RAM-TULSI.
RAMJANI may also translate to "Nobody knows!" or "I do not know!"
I also searched in the books I have even in tribal medicine books including Assamese but did not find ramjani...!!!!
... explanation sounds closer to home truth, many Sahib "researcher" relied on local servants for names of local vegetation. Jones's dictionary is often cited by Sanskrit scholars as one such widely used book...
not Jones'
its monier -williams's dictionary cited
sorry,  somehow my hand must have hit the send button area on the screen
I also had searched ayurvedic books and some kabiraji books in bangla ... no ramjani...  there are many plants whose name starts with Ram- but no ramjani plant.   or herb or medicine.
really Ram must jano know.// god knows.
While I agree with all the points and clarifications put by ... and you. I would like to put my thought here ... many a times I have come across regional names which make no sense, not found in dictionaries, yet the name is well-known and well-used. 
It is when we stumble on names like ramjani - which are "found" in books but are not known to people, the suspense mounts.
The possibility of spelling the name could be many ... like: 1) रामजानी  2) रमजानी  3) रामजनी  4) रमजनी
Please give me the name रामजानी in Bangla script - I would like to include it as a tentative spelling for sheer possibility that someone in future may validate it.
On doing a second round of search - trying to check whether this could be a name for person, found this:
রাম্জানি Ramjani - a given Indian Bengali FEMALE name ... Bengali Baby Names - nameurbaby.com
This possibility is far-fetched, though cannot be overruled.
Another possibility is the flowering / fruiting is at its peak during the holy month of Ramzan ... thus रमजानी.
I would go ahead to place ¿ রাম্জানি ? as tentative spelling for ramjani until someone confidently validates it in negative OR positive.
I agree with you ... and thanks for this interesting discussion. :-)
There are enough points in favor of the validity of the name (as a name for anything) and i guess the next step in validation would be to ascertain if this 'name' is actually used by the locals for this particular plant?
Perhaps this entails a field trip holding out the plant for recognition to a sample of local people (don't ask me how to remove selection bias here:-)) who may or may not identify it with the local name under contention. From the discussion thread below it appears that this exercise is yet to be executed but perhaps a few young and enthusiastic members of this group can recruit school children to do this as part of a 'citizen science-art' project? 
since so far we dont know for sure the botanical name ramjani
your guess and research is as good as anybody's mine included
so who 's to say the half m in the spelling in the last paragraph you have is not correct.
for all I know it may be the right one
anyway I like to keep an open mind and so  may be that's the best choice and hope some Bangla phd or MA professorial type comes and takes a look...
I will ask in the colleges around here when I get a chance
Thank you very much Usha Di. I anticipated that you might have worked on it!
It is interesting that while Sir Prain, following Hooker, cited Roxburgh's Baeobotrys indica & B. nemoralis for Maesa indica, Haines, following Hooker, thought Maesa indica was partly synonymous with M. montana DC. Similarly, Voigt thought Baeobotrys indica is synonymous with Maesa lanceolata! However, latest info from FoC informs they are different taxa.
It is furthermore interesting that even website of Bangladesh, where those trees are/were found, doesn't provide Bengali name -
  1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-indica.php
  2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-acuminata.php

Yes ... i looked at that website, i am familiar with it, and them.
most of their pics and write up are cut and paste and not referenced... they never acknowledge source or type the source url etc, so how can one take it seriously.
Back to more authentic ones... the hard evidence at hand are the reference books i have access to at moments notice... no such name comes up.
... it nice to see you here again
Yes ..., I referred the sites only for Bengali names of plants (not validity of species id), what they usually provide, as for example, TULSI -
  1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-sanctum.php
  2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-basilicum.php

Thanks very much ... We will get to know someday about this name (in yes or no).
This discussion reminds me of an argument I had in facebook. The opposition didn't know that most of the senior villagers call Mirabilis jalapa L. as KESHTA-KOLI (কেষ্টকলি) in Bengali. The name of this plant now prevails as SO(/A)NDHA-MALATI (সন্ধ্যামালতি/সন্ধ্যামালতী). But, in Prain and Piddington, it was KRISHNA-KELI and Voigt recorded it in Bengali Script as কৃষ্ণ কেলি.
Thank you very much ... I agree with your thoughts.
I am not ruling out the chance of "ramjani" being wrongly recorded in first place.
Hope someday this query gets resolved.


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SK 2435 06 February 2020 : 14 posts by 2 authors. 12 images- 4 to 7 mb each.
Location:  Indra Daha
Altitude: 1800 m.
Date: 19 January 2020
Habit : Wild
It has always been dificult to ID Maesa except for M. macrophylla.
M. chisia? M.indica?

Keys in Flora of Bhutan at Maesa take me to Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC.


 
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IDENTITY : 70 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Attaching few images of a small plant with tiny white flowers with whitish berry (sweet in taste).
Can anybody identify please?
Was it wild ? when were images clicked ? Do you have the image of the tree ?
May be Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. if other things match.

I guess you are right ...! 

Thank you … It has also been confirmed by Dr A P Das.


 
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Tree sp, from Assam KD 03 Mar. 2020 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Attached images are tree species from Assam. Pl. Id of the sp. 
Date : 29.02.2020
Location: Assam

Family : ?
Genus & species : ??
Habitat: Grows wild on.
Habit : Tree
 

Maesa chisia D.Don

I think Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. DC. and not Maesa chisia as per keys and details at Maesa


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Unknown shrub from Assam-Jan 2014 : 12 posts by 7 authors.
Attached images are unknown shrub. Please ID the plant.  
Date :30.12..2013
Location: Assam
Family : ?
Genus & species : ??
Habitat: Grows wild on hill slopes
Habit : Shrub
Gnetum probably.
... a member of Euphorbiaceae? .. Any sp. of Aporosa ??.. Aporosa roxburghii (Wall. ex Lindl.) Baill. ??
I am unable to accomodate it in Euphorbiaceae
Could it be a Maesa sp?  The buds of Maesa indica look like this
.. Quite possible for Myrsinaceae.
Maesa has quite a good number of spp. in Assam too.
The flowers are so immature that I am unable to arrive at a decision.
I will try to give my reply tomorrow
Looks like Maesa indica (Roxb.) Wall. !
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