Pedicularis pectinata

Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth., Scroph. ind. 52. 1835; 

Pakistan (Chitral, Swat), Pakistani Kashmir (Astor, Gilgit, Baltistan, Deosai), Jammu & Kashmir (Poonch, Kashmir), NW-India, Nepal as per Catalogue of Life;
 

 
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VOF Week: Pedicularis sp-1 at VOF: Pedicularis sp.-1 seen at VoF..
I hope
Pedicularis pectinata
I think appears more closer to images at Pedicularis pyramidata Royle ex Benth. rather than those at Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth. 

 

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VoF Week: Pedicularis rhinanthoides from valley: 6 images.
Pedicularis rhinanthoides from valley
pls validate
Can't be P. rhinanthoides as leaves are whorled
Corolla tube slightly longer than calyx, beak coiled, basal portion of calyx swollen all point to P. pyramidata.

Thanks for the correction Sir
Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.). 
could this be Pedicularis pyramidata....
I also think Pedicularis pyramidata not very sure

Thanks, ... I think it may be Pedicularis pectinata as per details in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton as though Pedicularis pyramidata is similar, it is out of range.


Yes ..., it is P. pectinata as per key in Scrophulariaceae of Western Himalayas.
Here is a image for your to rethink. The plant is on the left hand side.
Forget about the range of the species while rethinking. If a plant can be found in Himachal then it can be found in Uttarakhand too as there is not much distance.
1. Stem hairy.
2. Mid lobe of lip is much bigger than side lobes.
3. Stamens, if i am not wrong, its visible and seems to be inserted above middle.
I may be wrong though.
Attachment: TYPE PEDICULARIS PYRAMIDATA K.jpg (2 MB)

A few things to note as amply focussed by Pennel and Tibetan Medicinal Plants
Basal portion of galea as long as corolla tube (1/2 as long in P. pyramidata)
Inflorescence is shorter with few fascicles (very dense and up to 1 ft long in P. pyramidata as per FBI)
Bracts don't conceal calyx (bracts are hairy and hide calyx according to Polunin) 
Agreed the two species are very closely related, on the basis of above observations I would go with P. pectinata.
I imagine why you tend to overlook the PROTOLOGUE and TYPES !!
The sketch in the type very well matches with the plant.
A general system of gardening and botany by G. Don describes Pedicularis pectinata with glabrous stem and P. pyramidata with with pilose stem (evident in the pic).
P. pectinata with calyx short and entire and P. pyramidata with short and hairy with entire teeth (evident in the pic).
Beak in both are twisted at the apex but twice as long at galea in P. pectinata and hardly longer as galea in P. pyramidata (Evident in the pic). 
 

 
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VoF Week:Pedicularis rhinanthoides:   

Pedicularis rhinanthoides

Valley of Flowers National Park

14.08.2012


I think more closer to images at Pedicularis pyramidata rather than those at Pedicularis rhinanthoides

Pedicularis rhinanthoides

Valley of Flowers National Park

14.08.2012


Very good pictures ... P.K.Ghanekar's book describes this as Ganapatiche Phul. गणपतीचे फूल
It really looks like Lord Ganesha

I think more closer to images at Pedicularis pyramidata rather than those at Pedicularis rhinanthoides

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Habitat: sloping meadow
Habit:
erect herb about 30 - 50 cm high, flower about 1.5 - 2 cm across

It seems to be Pedicularis gracilis var. gracilis
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=12709&flora_id=2
Agree with id of ... Pedicularis gracilis
I think more closer to images at Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth. rather than those at Pedicularis gracilis
I agree with P. pectinata.
Thank you very much, ... Will soon revise my notes with the ID.

Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: Pedicularis gracilis var. gracilis at Valley of Flowers :: DV29 : 2 images. 2 posts by 2 authors.
Pedicularis gracilis var. gracilis ... also placed in Orobanchaceae
at Valley of Flowers on 02 AUG 12
I think more closer to images at Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth. rather than those at Pedicularis gracilis   
Thanks ...  Will soon revise my notes with this tentative ID of Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth.
 
 
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Pedicularis ¿ pyramidata ? ... also placed in Orobanchaceae
at Valley of Flowers on 02 AUG 12 
efi page on Pedicularis pyramidata
To me appears close to images at Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth. 
I agree with you.
 
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VoF Week :: DV :: 02 AUG 12 - 0938 :: Pedicularis ¿ gracilis / rhinanthoides ? at Valley of Flowers:
2 AUG 12
Valley of Flowers ... about 11500 ft
Habitat: sloping meadow
Habit: small herb, about 20 - 30 cm high; flower about 1 - 1.5 cm across (not sure)

Can't be any of the two as leaves are whorled. Closer to P. pectinata but flowers slightly darker, calyx tube inflated, basal portion of galea shorter, I would go with P. pyramidata.
Colour and texture of calyx in http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Pyramid%20Lousewort.html seem to differ from what is posted here. Please validate / reconsider the ID.
I think close to images at Pedicularis pectinata Wall. ex Benth. 

 
 

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