Cymbidium bicolor

Cymbidium bicolor Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl. 164 1833.;
 
Two-Colored Cymbidium;
 
There has been lot of confusion on this. But the original description of Cymbidium is based on a sketch in Hortus Malabaricus which has dark bands but somehow it got mixed up with C. bicolor.
Now it is believed that C. bicolor is without prominent bands and C. aloifolium is with bands.
  

 
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09042005VAI1 - Orchid for ID: Unidentified orchid
Location: Makunda Christian Hospital campus, Karimganj District, Assam
Date: 9th April 2005
Equipment: Nikon D70 with Nikkor AF 28-105mm 
-  this is Cymbidium bicolor

 
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09042005VAI2 - Orchid for ID: Unidentified orchid
Location: Makunda Christian Hospital campus, Karimganj District, Assam
Date: 9th April 2005
Equipment: Nikon D70 with Nikkor AF 28-105mm
-  This is also Cymbidium bicolor.
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Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-  Maredumilli, East Godavari district, Andhra Pradesh
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild, moist deciduous forests in Eastern Ghats
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  Epiphyte
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- long, strap-shaped
Inflorescence Type/ Size- as seen in the photos
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Cream edges, maroon center
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds
Occurance- second most common orchid here, only next to Acampe praemorsa
Yes this looks to me like Cymbidium bicolor
.. just a question, Why not Cymbidium aloifolium?
Cymbidium aloifolium has dark band on the petals and sepal which is absent In bicolor. 
Even these photo shows band?
please help in id, i am confused with both species 
There has been lot of confusion on this. But the original description of Cymbidium is based on a sketch in Hortus Malabaricus which has dark bands but somehow it got mixed up with C. bicolor.
Now it is believed that C. bicolor is without prominent bands and C. aloifolium is with bands.
I dont have good picture of C. aloifolium but attaching on of my bicolor and two pics from internet.
Hope this helps. First one is bicolor
There is no confusion, if you add these with foliar and fruit characters. Moreoever second and third pic are very distinct. 
even these are confusing!!! 
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Orchid for identification 220412MK01:  
Please help me to identify the Orchid found in a tree trunk at about 7 metres high. Could this be Rhynchostylis sp.? The location is at the bank of a seasonal stream which was dry during the summer. The host tree is Terminalia arjuna.
Date: first week of March 2012
Location: near Masinagudi, Nilgiris dist., TN
Altitude: c. 800 M ASL
The leaves were of about 20cm long.
This should be Cymbidium bicolor. Please show flowers to confirm.
Very strange there are so many floral stalks but no fruit!!! Thats a bad news!!
This is the time when it flowers.
 
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22/04/2012/YRP/01/Wayanad, Kerala.: could someone identify this orchid please?
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021111PD06 Cymbidium bicolor Flora of Orissa: sharing another epiphytic Orchid from Ranpur Orissa
Name of the species: Cymbidium bicolor
Place of collection: Ranpur, Nayagarh, orissa
Habit: Epiphyte
Habitat: Moist deciduous forests
Altitude: 300 m above msl
Lovely ... Here in Kerala it is usually aloifolium that is found at lower altitudes.
Yes we have also C. aloefolium in lower altitudes. I wl definitely share them in the group.

Attachments (5). 3 posts by 3 authors.
I had seen this herb on a tree trunk.  (Cymbidium sp)
Date / Time: 19-12-2010 / 01:15PM
Location: Elephanta Beach, Havelock, Andaman & Nicobar
Habitat: Wild
Plant Habit: Herb,

Most likely Cymbidium bicolor.


 
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ORCHIDACEAE Juss. Fortnight: Cymbidium bicolor Lindl. from Jharkhand, PKS-131 : Attachments (1). 3 posts by 3 authors.
Cymbidium bicolor Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 164 (1833).
Distribution: India, Sri Lanka, Andaman and Nicobar Is., W. & C. Malesia
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This beautiful epiphyte was shot from way to Darjeeling from Pelling...
Please help to conclude id..
Can this be Cymbidium bicolor...?

This is interesting.
There are two groups of people. One who thinks that a dark and complete band on petals and sepals from one end to other is Cymbidium aloifolium (leaves are narrower too) and the plant in this pic is Cymbidium bicolor (leaves are broader). Others believe the other way around.
The original illustration in Hortus Malabaricus of C. aloifolium has dark band.
So I will agree with the identification of this plant as Cymbidium bicolor.
Another beautiful set. All your Orchid posts are really very beautiful.
 
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OMJUNE01 : 5 posts by 2 authors.  
IS this Cymbidium bicolor or Cymbidium aloifolium??
An epiphytic orchid, with long strap like leathery leaves hanging down. Flowers in pendolous racemes, about two feet long rachis.
Also how do u differenciate between C.bicolor and C.aloifolium?
I think these pictures are from Sikkim. ..., Pl. confirm
yes sikkim, dzongu district. sorry in forgot to mention the place
So this is Cymbidium bicolor??
it is Cymbidium aloifolium not bicolor
Is it still Cymbidium aloifolium in view of another thread ?
No this is not Cymbidium aloifolium. I need to see the leaves to confirm which species this is. May be Cymbidium bicolor.
Looks like cymbidium simulans Rolfe which is now synonymous under C. aloifolium
There has been lot of confision between aloifolium and bicolor. Some say that bicolor is with dark line on the sepals and petals while other say that it is aloifolium with dark line. Originally Cymbidium aloifoium has been described based on drawing in Hortus Mlabaricus which shows a clear line on the petals and sepals and hence if synonymous, this should be under bicolor.

No way near to bicolor
Show me a bicolor you know and let me recheck :)
A reply from ..., BSI who revised Genus Cymbidium very recently:
Excellent photographs... This is Cymbidium aloifolium very common species.  Thank you for sharing the images.
I have no comments to make. If BSI has done it then it is wrong. There is another book on Cymbidum by Phillip Cribb which is also wrong. This was a mistake made long time back and it was follwed there after.
I know what this is and if the sender can share the images of leaves then I can confirm.
There is what I call a true Cymbidium aloifolium on
the link


 
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MS May, 2017/19 Orchidaceae for ID : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Tamdil, Mizoram
Date : 27-05-2017

Habit : epiphytic orchid
Habitat : Wild


Same Cymbidium. Attachments (1)
Same orchid. Attachments (1)

I would say this is Cymbidium aloifolium if you follow the kew checklist but I think this is Cymbidium bicolor. There is lot of confusion between these two. People in northeast say that it is Cymbidium pendulum which according to kew checklist is synonym of Cymbidium aloifolium.
 
Cymbidium aloifolium (L.) Sw. ?? : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Location: Singtam, Darjeeling, India
Date: 22 May  2017
Altitude: 1800 ft.
I find some difference between C. aloifolium and C. bicolor in FOI.

My explanation remains the same. This should be Cymbidium bicolor.
 
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Cymbidium aloifolium (L.) Sw. ?? : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Location: Singtam, Darjeeling, India
Date: 22 May  2017
Altitude: 1800 ft.
I find some difference between C. aloifolium and C. bicolor in FOI.

My explanation remains the same. This should be Cymbidium bicolor.

I think your plant is Cymbidium bicolor.
Thanks a lot for the links and one of the link is my pic only :)
Secondly, I would like to say that your active participation and sharing of tonnes of flora pics from Nepal is really commendable. Please keep it up.
 
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MS June, 2018/01 Cymbidium sp. for ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Date : 01-06-2018
Habit : Epiphytic orchid
Habitat : Wild

I would say, Cymbidium bicolor



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