Dysoxylum gotadhora

Dysoxylum gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Mabb., in Fl. China 11: 127 2008. (Syn: Alliaria gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Kuntze; Dysoxylum binectariferum (Roxb.) Hook. fil. ex Bedd.; Dysoxylum cupuliforme Li; Dysoxylum grandifolium Li; Dysoxylum macrocarpum Thw.; Dysoxylum reticulatum King; Epicharis exarillata Arn. ex Wight & Arn.; Epicharis gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) M. Roem.; Guarea binectarifera Roxb.; Guarea gotadhora Buch.-Ham.);    
 
   
India (Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Tripura, Meghalaya, Maharashtra, Goa, Daman & Diu, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala), Sri Lanka, Myanmar [Burma] (Kachin, Mandalay, Rakhine, Sagaing), Nepal, China (Hainan, Yunnan), Andaman Isl. (South Andaman Isl.), Bhutan, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam as per Catalogue of Life;


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matheran tree for id: Please help identify this large tree seen today in evergreen forest at Matheran.
No flowers or fruit at present. Many seedlings around 2 parent trees. Nos of leaflets variable from approx 5 to 9. Rachis angled: flat on top and curved below. Young parts very slightly puberulous. Mature leaves semi coriaceous.
This species is very rare at Matheran.
Could this be Dysoxylum binectariferum, Meliaceae
Yes, this is Dysoxylum binectariferum 


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This huge tree was shot from Botanical Garden of Forest Research Institute, Dehradun...
was labelled as Dysoxylum binectariferum, Meliaceae...
infact as D. bimectiferum, with a spelling (m)istake...
Please validate the upload..
Yes. It is correct ID, now D. gotadhora.
 
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Dysoxylum binectariferum: Dysoxylum binectariferum, a Meliaceae tree seems rare in western Maharashtra. I have not seen this tree so far. Requesting members who have seen this tree in western Maharashtra to please guide me on its location. This tree is expected to be flowering in the next few weeks. Thanking in anticipation
Long back i have posted unidentified plant which i have clicked from Matheran ..on eflora i got id as Dysoxylum binectariferum, but still i am not satisfied ...if the Id get confirm then ... can click picture in Matheran...its self...since its common there...
I am also not satisfied with the id D. binectariferum.
... may help as to conclude with a correct id.
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Have a sapling of this on my property at Shahapur. Sending a few photographs.
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I think this sapling is very likely to be D.binectariferum. The only other possibility is that it could be Aglaia lawii (=Amoora lawii). Dysoxylum leaf rachis is 3 angled while A.lawii had domatia in the axils of the secondary nerves. I understand that this plant is too young but it would be nice if someone can still try and verify these characters. A close up of leaf rachis and underside of leaflet may prove conclusive.
Attaching my picture of D. binectariferum leaf

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Thank you for your comments. Also have saplings of Aglaia lawii [Amoora lawii locally called Telya] on my property at Shahapur from which this sapling is obviously distinct. Will take some photographs of them later and send them for comparison.
Had earlier posted a photograph of Dysoxylum binectariferum taken at Garo Hills, Meghalaya. Am sending it again.


Am sending photographs of Aglaia lawii for comparison as promised in a separate mail.

 
Information on some trees:  
I will be obliged to know accessible locations where the following trees could be seen in flowers.
1. Corypha umbraculifera
2. Dysoxylum binectariferum
3 Chrysophyllum roxburghianum
4. Mastixia arborea
A few days back I have posted what I suspect to be Dysoxylum binectariferum from Matheran, but there was no confirmation of the id. There are a few trees, not yet flowering and I am watching them. Could let you know when I see it happening.
If you are interested I can send you an email
The following efi site links may be useful:


I am looking forward to photograph these trees in flowers, so confirmed ID, mature flowering stage and accessibility is needed. I have searched on eflora hence putting up a fresh request.
 
QUERY :: etymology of gotadhora: Dysoxylum binectariferum (Roxb.) Hook. f. ex Hiern ... is put as synonym of ... Dysoxylum gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Mabb. in GRIN and The Plants List.
Would like to know etymology of gotadhora.
Here is the protologue if you can find something interesting out of it. Its a word from local dialect I think

Thank you ... - BUT I was not able to find any instance of gotadhora - either I am overseeing it OR this is not the protologue.
Please check the image. The name is there twice, rest of the things are in latin. Thats why I said, it must be a local dialect, may be BENGALI!! as it says, BARA GOTADHORA BENGALENSIUM 
Yes indeed ... - I can see it now. Thank you very much.
Re-putting the link here to go directly on the page: Memoirs of the Wernerian Natural History Society - Volume 6 - Page 307
Dear Bengali-knowing friends, please help in knowing whether bara gotadhora makes sense in Bangla, it must be in fact the name of the plant Guarea gotadhora Buch.-Ham. ... basionym of Dysoxylum gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Mabb. - its synonym Dysoxylum binectariferum (Roxb.) Hook. f. ... is more popular.
There are some shining plastics using in sari, they are called GOTA in Bengali, usually circular, rounded or spherical.
Many thanks ...
... and DHORA, perhaps is related to thread.
BARA ¿ = ? big
GOTA ¿ = ? circular, rounded or spherical
DHORA ¿ = ? thread

no ... Gota menas whole, entire in Bangla
Gota that are used in saris is a marwari word 
PS I am still looking in old dictionaries... new ones donot mention this word "GOTADHARA"
ethnic books from rural bengal (in my Limited library at home) has not yielded anything for the last three days..
I think I'll call some of my old professors and see what they can teach me new and I'll pass it on to you...
Unless some our professor members who are bengali come up with the meaning in the meantime.
Yes, that is true. But I was correct too.
You know the KANCHA, GOLI or in english they call it MARBLES. That is also called GOTA.
One of my friends said that DHORA can also mean "to hold", PAKARNA !!
Hopefully, now expecting to get the words BARA GOTADHORA in native script from Bangla-knowing friends.
in Bangla script it is : বড গোটাধরা


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Request for fruit ID – 280412SC1: Posting a photo for Id of fruit
Date/Time – 16.04.2012 / 10.00 a.m.
Location – Place – Gibbon Sanctuary, Eastern Assam
Habitat – Garden/ Urban/ Wild / Type – Wild

Sorry for the location lapse. This one is from Kaziranga National Park.
This looks like Dysoxylum to me.
Is it Dysoxylum binectariferum ? The foliage too resembles.
I am not sure...Pl wait for more comments!
 
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plant ID please: 
 place : haldwani, uttaranchal
height: about 20-25 feet
Crown shape: Globular pyramid
leaves 15-20 cms, margins slightly undulating, elongated like the Ashoka tree's leaf, firm to tough with a comapratively smoother dorsal side
fruit size and shape: a fist sized guava like, with four tomato like grooves on it. yellow when i found it, and am told it turns orange when ripe
It had four seeds, and they are covered with a thick coat. I removed the coat to reveal green cotyledons which were the size of grapes.

No idea at all about it's flower.

This is most probably Dysoxylum malabaricum Bedd. ex C.DC. of Meliaceae family.
Looks like Dysoxylum binectariferum
Identified as Dysoxylum species as per another thread


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MS April, 2016/17 Tree for ID : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
Location : Lungkulh, Mizoram
Date : 13/04/2016
Habit : Medium-sized tree
Habitat : Wild

This is a species of Dysoxylum.
could this be d. gotadhara or gotadhora... bhutan flora may be a lead. but flora of china says seeds would be red these seem to be black or deep purple...  so ... answer would be more like it
and ... you will have your work cut out for you...

Dysoxylum species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 


I think this is Dysoxylum species. (meliaceae)
To me also appear similar to images at Dysoxylum gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Mabb.
Probably D. gotadhora, because of : capsule 4-celled, pale yellow turning orange; seeds large, yellow hilum and white aril..
Other differentiating characters are not very well seen in the photos

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Dysoxylum gotadhora :: Matheran :: Nov - Dec, 2012 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 10 images.
Matheran ... about 2600 ft asl
Dysoxylum gotadhora (Buch.-Ham.) Mabb. ... (family: Meliaceae)
on December 8, 2012
on November 1, 2012



 
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