Lagerstroemia parviflora

Lagerstroemia parviflora Roxb., Pl. Coromandel 1: 48 1796. (syn: Fatioa napaulensis DC.; Murtughas parviflora Kuntze (Unresolved)); 

Common name: Small Flowered Crape Myrtle • Assamese: Sida, Dhauli • Garo: Bolsidai, Sidai, Bol sidai • Hindi: Dhaura, Lendia, Bakli, Sidi • Kannada: Chanangi, Ventaku, Bhutara • Khasi: Dieng lang sing • Malayalam: Ventekku, Cheemangi • Marathi: Lende, Bondga, Bondara • Nepali: बोट धैयानरो Bot Dhaiyanro • Oriya: Solokha • Tamil: Chenangi, Chinnanchi, Kaccaikkattai, • Telugu: Chinangi, Chennangi ;
 
the fruit of L. parviflora [Nana], they look like peanuts and are 12 - 18 mm long, whereas here in L. lanceolata [Bhondara], as you know, they look like 'acorns' and are usually 2-3 by 1-2cms.
Also from my records over the last few years, Bhondara flowers now [from Apr -Jun] and fruits from Aug -Dec,
whereas Nana flowers in Aug and friuts from Aug -Dec.

As per efi thread :
The leaves of what cook calls parviflora are indeed more lanceolate than those of what he calls lanceolata. However L. lanceolata was previously called L.microcarpa (tiny fruits) so the size of the fruit of this plant matches L. parviflora better (2-3 cm as against 1-1.5 cm) than L. lanceolata (L. microcarpa);
 
In Lagerstroemia parviflora Roxb. , the bark is peeling ...
And in L. lanceolata the bark is rough, with exfoliations.. But may not peel off .. ;


 
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Date/Time-: 12/04/11   -    09:45
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-   wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- tree
Height/Length-7-8m

This is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Seena or Bhondara. Had recently posted photographs of this and they are available at this link:  
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/91...
There are three different unresolved names of Lagerstroemia lanceolata as below as per the Plant list (
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Lagerstroemia+lanceolata+):
Name Status Confi­dence level Source
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wight & Arn. Unresolved WCSP (in review)
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wall. Unresolved WCSP (in review)
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wall. ex C.B.Clarke Unresolved WCSP (in review) There is no valid name as Lagerstroemia microcarpa  as per the plant List:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Lagerstroemia+microcarpa+
Which one is the posted one ?


This is Lagerstroemia parviflora and not L. lanceolata
Yes I agree with ..., it is Lagerstroemia parviflora of Lythraceae family. Glaucous (beneath) leaves (reyish/ bluish colour of leaves) is a key character.
As I had stated previously, the tree in question here is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Seena / Bhondara. 
The photographs are not clear enough to comment on the colour / texture of the leaves. However the leaves are clearly lanceolate and the fruit capsules [seen in the second photograph] are large [about 2-3 by 1-2 cms].
The confusion may have arisen because you both are following Cooke's classification. I have written about this and it is available at this link :  
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/76...   
My previous photographs of L.parviflora [Nana] are also available in the archives of this site, but I will send a few more of my recent photographs in a separate mail for comparison.
What you are saying could be correct. The leaves of what cook calls parviflora are indeed more lanceolate than those of what he calls lanceolata. However L. lanceolata was previously called L.microcarpa (tiny fruits) so the size of the fruit of this plant matches L. parviflora better (2-3 cm as against 1-1.5 cm) than L.  lanceolata (L. microcarpa)     That being said, I would still urge you and also others to validate Dr. Almeida's assertion and not just take his word for it.
 
 
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Lagerstroemia parviflora?: Id confirmation required for Lagestroemia parviflora of Lythraceae
family! Clicked at Matheran (Flower pic on 30th March and rest all on 15th June).


I think Lagerstroemia parviflora is correct. Please check the spelling. You missed one 'r'.

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IDENTITY : 28:  Attaching an image of a flowering tree. Can it be Lagerstroemia parviflora?
Yes it is!

 
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Tree_for_ID_20042015AJK2 : 6 posts by 3 authors.
Could you please id this tree  with following details...
photographs taken on 19th April 2015
Location- Oxford golf club hill, Bavdhan area, Pune
Habitat- wild
Plant Habit- Tree
Leaves Simple.
Inflorescence Type/ Size- small white flowers, not seen properly, photograph attached
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- -pic attached
Lagerstroemia parviflora as per BSI
Recently I too noticed its flowering on the outskirts of Pune. 
very nice
is that a fruit in the middle picture, ...
Yes it is. It is important in identification ...part of the key which is given in the link above.
 
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Tree for ID :: Mudumalai :: MK003 NOV2016 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)
Please help me in identification of this wild tree species.
Habitat: Deciduous forest
Date: 29 April 2016
Place: Mudumalai TR, Tamilnadu
Alt.: 900 m asl

This appears to be Lagerstroemia parviflora.


 
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ID....TREE...VZT1 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)
Date/Time-22/1/2017
Location- Daouli, Dapoli, MH
Habitat- Wild
Plant Habit- Tree
Height-7 meter

Lagerstroemia parviflora Roxb. [Lythraceae].


 
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Lagrstroemia parviflora :: Kanha, MP Tour :: ARKJAN08 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)
Saw this tall tree near the Kanha National Park, MP in Decemebr 2016. The tree was very tall, But saw some fruits on the lower branches.
Identified by ... as Lagerstroemia parviflora on the Facebook group.
 
Lagerstroemias 3 posts by 2 authors.
Had previously written [and this was widely accepted]:

1st June 2009

Hi ...,
The way I see it:
1. Lagerstroemia flos-regina / L.regina / L.speciosa called the 'Queen's Flower' is locally called Taman / Jarul / [Motha Bhondara].
2. Lagerstroemia parviflora is locally called Bhondara / Seena.
3. Lagerstroemia lanceolata / L.microcarpa called 'Stripping Lady' is locally called Nana.
Have all these trees at my farm at Shahapur. Have previously posted photographs of these on this site or on wildflowersofindia in my discussions with Pat and Bindu. Could possibly send them again S.O.S.

Now know that this is wrong.

Dr.Almeida visited my farm on the 11th of October 2009. According to him Cooke erred in transposing the names of L.parviflora [Nana] and L.lanceolata [Seena / Bhondara] and “most authors have been following this blindly”. In fact, Cooke in his ‘ Flora of Bombay ‘ Vol 1 [page 546] has made this statement “Dalzell & Gibson [Bom. Fl. 1. c.] have transposed the names of L.lanceolata and L. parviflora”.

Dr. Almeida explained – in Bhondara / Seena the leaves are long and lanceolate – hence he has in his book ‘Flora of Maharashtra’, Vol 2 [pages 284- 285] reverted to the original names.

Therefore, would like to amend my aforementioned classification thus:              

1. Lagerstroemia flos-regina / L.regina / L.speciosa called the 'Queen's Flower' is locally called Taman / Jarul / [Motha Bhondara].
2. Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] is locally called
Bhondara / Seena.
3. Lagerstroemia parviflora called 'Stripping Lady' is locally called Nana.      

Had also written [and this is revelant here]:

30th March 2010.

Hi ...,
A thought occured to me - in case you have not seen the fruit of L. parviflora [Nana], they look like peanuts and are 12 - 18 mm long, whereas here in L. lanceolata [Bhondara], as you know, they look like 'acorns' and are usually 2-3 by 1-2cms.
Also from my records over the last few years, Bhondara flowers now [from Apr -Jun] and fruits from Aug -Dec, whereas Nana flowers in Aug and friuts from Aug -Dec.
Will try and send a comparative photograph of the fruit when I get back from Eaglenest.                             

Will be resending my previously posted photographs of L.parviflora & L.lanceolata now correctly labelled in my next 2 mails. 



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Fruit for ID-050710-PKA1 - efloraofindia | Google Groups



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Thakurwadi Village at the Base of "kalawantin" near Panvel;Lagerstroemia species - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Lagerstroemia lanceolata flowering.: Photograped at Shahapur today (8.5.11). Have followed Dr.Almeida's classification here.


The classification is from one of the 5 volumes of Dr. Almeida's "Flora of Maharashtra", printed by Orient Press, Bombay. They are available at the Botany Department of St.Xavier's College, Bombay.


Lagerstroemia microcarpa is correct name
After going through all the posts in efi site, I feel it is closer to images, details and keys at Lagerstroemia parviflora


 
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16022012 BS-2 Large Tree for id from Maihar MP: Large Tree for id from Maihar MP
Shot on 17-1-12 from the way to Maa Sharda shrine
wild tree height about 25-30 feet
Flowers not seen Fruits were of 1.0 -1.5 cm
Is this Diospyros by any chance?
It looks like dry dehiscent fruits, if so, chances are less for species of Diospyros.
Any chance for a Lytheraceae species?  
This is Seena /Bhondara [Lagerstroemia lanceolata]- acc. to Dr.Almeida's classification. Please check the archives of this group for my photographs of this.
After going through all the posts in efi site, I feel it is closer to images, details and keys at Lagerstroemia parviflora
I agree with L. parviflora. The larger fruits can be clearly seen. 
 
 
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Tree For ID : Jim Corbett,Uttarakhand : 030614 : AK-2 :  9 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (6 + 2 + 4).
Tree seen with tiny flowers near the river bank.
Found just this one tree n bloom.
Kindly id.
Lagerstroemia parviflora Roxb. (Lythraceae).
Thanks for the id. I had seen many of these trees with fruits which were being relished by the Parakeets, this was the only tree flowering.
Thanks ...,   Perhaps this is abundantly flowering in Sikkim these days..
I could not get even a distant shot of this tree with lovely flowers... I could only wonder what this would have been..  But happy to get id now.. thanks for posting ...
It blooms around Pantnagar in May. 
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Here are more pictures of the fruits.
To me according to Dr.Almeida's classification [and we have had plenty of discussions on this in this forum] this is Lagerstroemia lanceolata. Please check these links : 
Don't want to get into any more discussions on this, but am only send this link to showcase the fruit : 
Google Groups
Thanks for the additional information.
These trees were quite common inside the Corbett area, only they were not flowering, so the one with flowers looked different & got me confused.
The ones seen commonly were identified by our guide as Lagerstroemia parviflora only, local names given were Dhawda, Dhawdi, Bakuli.
Here are the differences from previous threads: 
The fruit of L. parviflora [Nana], they look like peanuts and are 12 - 18 mm long, whereas here in L. lanceolata [Bhondara], as you know, they look like 'acorns' and are usually 2-3 by 1-2cms.
Also from my records over the last few years, Bhondara flowers now [from Apr -Jun] and fruits from Aug -Dec,
whereas Nana flowers in Aug and friuts from Aug -Dec.;
As per efi thread :
The leaves of what cook calls parviflora are indeed more lanceolate than those of what he calls lanceolata. However L. lanceolata was previously called L.microcarpa (tiny fruits) so the size of the fruit of this plant matches L. parviflora better (2-3 cm as against 1-1.5 cm) than L. lanceolata (L. microcarpa);
In Lagerstroemia parviflora Roxb. , the bark is peeling ...
And in L. lanceolata the bark is rough, with exfoliations.. But may not peel off .. ;
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Thanks for the update.
I am adding more pictures of the tree locally known as Dhawda, Dhawdi.

After going through all the posts in efi site, I feel it is closer to images, details and keys at Lagerstroemia parviflora
After going through all the posts in efi site, I feel it is closer to images, details and keys at Lagerstroemia parviflora
Thanks ... Since ... is familiar with trees from that area, the id he suggested should be correct. Thanks ...
 
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Tree For ID : Jim Corbett,Uttarakhand : 060614 : AK-14 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (5).
Trees seen in the Sitabani area on 17/5/14.
Id please.
This is also Lagerstroemia lanceolata [Seena, Bhondara] - according to Dr.Almeida's classification. It's branches have been lopped.
Thanks for the id of this tree seen at Corbett.
After going through all the posts in efi site, I feel it is closer to images, details and keys at Lagerstroemia parviflora



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