Isodon lophanthoides

 
Crested Flower Isodon;   


 
while a couple of earlier posts await identification, thought I would send my quota for the day. Here is the first - this is a White series.
Looks like "Isodon lophanthoides" from Lamiaceae family.
I second ... ID

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I have a slight confusion over the species isodon lophanthoides, I know this topic has been covered before but....
Two of my observations have been id'd as isodon lophanthoides, I am sure there is a logical explanation or a variation of species... could someone enlighten me about this.... Is there a sub-species of isodon lophanthoides...??
To me the two plants vary in size, leaves and the flowers vary in colour. their streaks/spots and even in the lower lips.... but...
What is labeled as Isodon1 was discussed in the thread
Isodon2 is also similar to isodon lophanthoides

... perhaps there is some difference between when you identify from books and study plants without flowers. Luckily we saw both on our trip to Chakrata and you must have seen we uploaded them also 
Your Isodon1 is Plectranthus barbatus. (syn:Coleus barbatus (Andrews) Benth.; Coleus forskohlii (Poir.) Briquet;)
your Isodon2 is Isodon lophanthoides (syn Plectranthus gerardianus)
I hope now your doubts are over
I think your Isodon1 appears close to images at Isodon coetsa (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) Kudô
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Kalatope id al250911:  Another small flower for id
Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 12 inches
Season September

Can it be Isodon sp. of Lamiaceae (I. rugosus)
I think I have given reply to this in thread:[efloraofindia:89779] Confusion of isodon lophanthoides from Kalatope
This plant is Isodon lophanthoides (syn Plectranthus gerardianus) 
 
Place: Cairn Hill (about 7460 ft asl), Ooty.
Time: November 16, 2011 at 8.07am
Habit: erect herb, about a metre high
Habitat: growing wild in evergreen forest
Plant: growing gregariously, single-stemmed - not branched
Leaf: somewhat similar to that of Plectranthus mollis, size and arrangement-wise
Inflorescence: about a foot long panicle, terminal as well as axillary
Flower size: about 10 - 12 mm long

I hope Isodon lophanthoides (syn Plectranthus gerardianus) 
Am convinced it to be Isodon lophanthoides (family: Lamiaceae).


 
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Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara
at Ooty on November 16, 2011 
   
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Lamiaceae & Verbenaceae Week: Lamiaceae- Isodon lophanthoides: Isodon lophanthoides
Family: Lamiaceae
Dt: 03-10-09
Location: On the way from Kas to Mahabaleshwar 
 
 
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Kas WeeK: PKA11:--- Isodon lophanthoides: Isodon lophanthoides
Family: Lamiaceae
Dt: 03-10-09
Location: On the way from Kas to Mahabaleshwar

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Isodon rugosus from Chakrata: This one is Isodon rugosus (Wall. ex Benth.) Codd shot from Chakrata trip last September.
This plant was uploaded during Lamiaceae Week.
It is Isodon lophanthoides (syn Plectranthus gerardianus
Yes Sir, Thanks a lot for correction.
very nice, does it have any scent when you crush the leaves?
I think all of us on the trip missed that point, especially I never crushed the leaves or smelt the flowers of this, of course it would be having nice fragrance...
That's alright, some plectranthus have nice smell... and their surface "hairs" always look as if they have some oil droplets... and in Calcutta air they trap dark particles that dont wash away easily... that's all


 
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This is a frequent herb of Uttrakhand hills.. these pics were recorded from Chakrata.. hopefully id is correct..
Isodon lopanthoides...

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Flora of Himachal Pradesh: 30102013 BS3 Another Lamiaceae herb for id from Shimla : Attachments (3). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Pls id one more Lamiaceae herb from shimla
to me it looks like Isodon sp
Yes, should be Isodon lophanthoides..
Thanks again ... for so fast id

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Another Mint? : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).
This is another plant spreading along the slopes here. I suspect it's also from the mint family. Could you please help me identify it.
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
19 September 2014

Plant can be 1-2 ft tall.  
This looks like Isodon lopanthoides.. from Mint family as you suspected..
 
Requesting to please validate ID of this Lamiaceae member captured near Satara, Maharashtra in October 2014.
Is this Isodon lophanthoides?
Yes it is Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara, 


 
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Attached are pictures of Isodon lophanthoides captured at Satara in October 2014.
Was posted on the forum earlier and identified.
 
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AKOCT28 ID please for this Lamiaceae herb. :  5 posts by 2 authors. 3 images.
Location: Landour, near Mussoorie.
I am sorry, I could not able to identify, feel it might be of Plectranthus group.
Check Isodon lophanthoides
 
Isodon lophanthoides
Mahabaleshwar

These are the pics recorded from Gori valley..
Isodon lopanthoides..

Family: Lamiaceae
Date: 26th December 2015
Place: Agumbe, Karnataka

Habit: Herb
Habitat: Riparian

This was earlier identified as Isodon sp. by ... and then later ... too agreed.
But a species could not be identified then.
Isodon in Digital Fl. Karnataka provides the following species.

Please validate if this can be Plectranthus stocksii J. Hooker (Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara).
Identification feature according to JCB is the presence of red glands on the underside of leaves and calyx and corolla. I am not sure if they are present on the leaves and corolla but the calyx is definitely dotted with red glands. I am attaching a close up of the calyx.
May I know how did you identify the genus, please.
I did not identify the genus by myself sir. ... in an earlier post of the same plant had provided the ID.
Do not know where to begin with generic level identification for Lamiaceae yet.
Well, I do not know either.
I think id is correct.
FoC says P. stocksii is synonym of Isodon lophanthoides var. lophanthoides. FBI says P. stocksii Hook. f. "possibly a form of P. striatus, but is a larger plant." FBI further informs Heyne's specimen, though very small, is this one.
Type specimen of the above can be viewed - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K001067855

3 more herb that may interest you -
FoC says Lamiaceae flowers are bisexual. Then why in its illustrations it shows female flower in another species - http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=4495&flora_id=2?
Thank you sir.
Heyne's specimen has been collected from 'Baba Budan Hills' which is the current day Bababudangiri in Chikamagalur, a shola grassland area. The altitude is known to affect the size of almost all plants, according to one professor who told me this. This could be the reason for the small size. Although I cannot be sure, I do not know the scientific reason to explain this.
As to the second part- Polygamous flowers? Female flowers with staminodes? I do not know. May be someone acquainted with this can answer!
Thank you for the info, after quite a search found that lamiaceae can show gynomonoecy - http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S2175-78602012000100010&script=sci_arttext


 
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ANDEC81 Lamiaceae for identification : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (13)
Found growing by a river side
26th December 2014
Agumbe, Karnataka

This looks to be an Isodon sp.
i was wondering that it may be

Isodon- species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)


Reply from another thread:
1.) Please validate if this can be Plectranthus stocksii J. Hooker (Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara).
Identification feature according to JCB is the presence of red glands on the underside of leaves and calyx and corolla. I am not sure if they are present on the leaves and corolla but the calyx is definitely dotted with red glands. I am attaching a close up of the calyx.- from ...
2.) I think id is correct.
FoC says P. stocksii is synonym of Isodon lophanthoides var. lophanthoides. FBI says P. stocksii Hook. f. "possibly a form of P. striatus, but is a larger plant." FBI further informs Heyne's specimen, though very small, is this one.
Type specimen of the above can be viewed - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K001067855
3 more herb that may interest you -
Sharing some pictures I guess is Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara (accepted name) syn 
Rabdosia lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara (synonym)
shot at Pashupati Forest Kathmandu on 16 October 2016 at 4400 ft. 
Very nice images, I think rightly identified too....
Nepali names: मसिनो चेप्टे Masino Chepte/ मसिनो चारपाते Masino Chaarapaate
Beautiful photos as usual, ... Many thanks for sharing the local names (in native script) too !!
Location: Pilot Baba Ashram, Bhaktapur , Nepal
Altitude:  5500 ft.
Date: 26 September 2016.
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Isodon lophanthoides : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1)
Isodon lophanthoides 
Kaas plateau
second week of October 2016
  
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Labiate for id 151110MK1:
Kindly id this Lamiaceae.
Date/Time- 06-11-2010 / 11:00 AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GPca.2200asl; Kodaikanal, TN
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- closer to water-falls; shola
Plant Habit-herb
Height/Length- 0.8 m
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- ca.5 x 3 cm; villose
Inflorescence Type/ Size- raceme; 5-7cm longer
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- white
- Looks like some Isodon sp. (Lamiaceae).
- Not 'rugosus' the leaves look different
Could this be Isodon coetsa (D. Don) Kudo.?
- Orthosiphon sp.???
Appears closer to images at Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara

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14.11.10.SP 3 : 
 Pl. identify following  plant.
Date: 14.11.2010
place: Dalhousiae, Chamba district in Himachal

It is better to take the photographs of such specimen on a black back ground for better clarity, using black paper.
Lamiaceae member; may be Isodon?
could this be Isodon nigrescens?
Its a wild guess... 
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/adde0fa0d8af7/_MG_7714_21Aug2016.jpg?part=0.1.6&authuser=0
 
Lamiaceae for ID ABAUG2016/56 : 7 posts by 4 authors. 6 images.
The flower reminded me of Isodon but I can’t place it. Please help with the ID.
Mcleodganj-Triund Trek,
2100m approx.
21 August 2016
Yes ...,  Please check Isodon lopanthoides....!!!
Thank you again ... I had thought so too initially but the leaves in photos on the internet look so different (my sample looks closer to a spurge) that I dismissed that thought. The leaves on my sample are thick and leathery with tips curved up on the ones on top. Do you think it’s just a variation? Please advise.
This is like a cat nip. similar type of plant.
Upper leaves appear a bit deformed. In the leaves there is a lot of variation as can be seen at Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara
Thank you ... ... had kindly pointed out the variation in leaves last year too. Thank you for re-examining it. I am looking forward to returning soon and finding these plants flowering.


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Need id of E Himalayan Labiate : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
I need id of the following Eastern Himalayan Labiates collected during September, 2014 from Singalila NP. Darjeeling.
Locality: Tonglu-Gairibans Roadside Hilly slope
Date: 18/09/2014
Populations: common throughout SNP
Some Plectranthus sp.
Lamiaceae herb with sessile leaves SN51117 : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
Wild Lamiaceae herb from Kathi(Pindari way) Uthrakand

... wild guess, some Isodon species.

Pl. check comparative images at 

The posted images give impression of Isodon lopanthoides..


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Lamiaceae herb SN51117 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)
Wild Lamiaceae herb from Brari area Bageshwar Uthrakand

This may be Isodon lopanthoides... 

Thanks, ..., for the id.
To me also appear closer to images at Isodon lophanthoides


 
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Isodon lophanthoides _for sharing and validation : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Pics taken at Aambyvalley Rd.,Lonavala,Pune in Oct.,16. From l have seen on eflora and the net it matches.
Yes, to me also appear close to images at Isodon lophanthoides


Kindly examine and identify this plant 

Habit: Herb 

Habitat: Wild,Semi-evergreen forest 

Sighting: Near Chikmagalur,Karnataka,about 1200 msl 

Date: 10-10-2015


Pl. check 
Beautiful pics, look like Isodon lopanthoides..

Nidhan ji....I think you are spot on. Matches with Isodon lopanthoides. Thanks again.

Thanks, ..., I was a little worried about the spots on the petals. 


 
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Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (9)- around 400 kb each. 
Location:  Dahachowk, Switzerland Park, Kathmandu,,Nepal 
Date: 29 September 2018
Elevation: 5500 ft.
Habit : Wild 


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SK865 17 NOV-2017:ID : 12 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)
Location: Nagarkot, Nepal
Altitude:6600 ft.
Date: 12 November 2017 
Isodon sp ..???

Appears interesting. 
Yes, looks like. I thought it to be Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara so took some random shots but while checking at home flower pattern looked different.
Unfortunately, I did not collect specimen also. 

Very interesting, I've not come across! Pl. check Fl China too!  

Could you please guide me which genus to check specially ? Isodon ??
I checked all Isodons in China but i could not find any image matching and it is difficult for me to go with descriptions.

Did not find match with any Labiatae found in the Kathmandu 
Valley listed according to the Flora of Kathmandu Valley.

I think Nepal species are give under Rabdosia as below. Pl. check

I tried all Isodon, Rabdosia, Coleus, Plectranthus and some other sp listed in Nepal but no luck.

Check only the Rabdosia species which are not available in efi so far.

I tried all possibilities!

It has  been identified as Isodon lophanthoides (Ruch.-Ham. ex D. Don) by Dr. Chunlei from China.
Any further opinions ?
But I am still confused ... since the flower image does not match with so may images I had clicked of Isodon lophanthoides (Ruch.-Ham. ex D. Don)  

Ask Dr. Chunlei, if it can be from any of these species. 
I think Nepal species are give under Rabdosia as below. Pl. check

He has already said twice as its ID so I feel awkward to ask again. By the way isn't the petal/corolla pattern looks  completely different than the Isodon lophanthoides ?

Yes, it looks different. 
I am afraid it turns out to be new species😂 !

But before that you have to rule out species at http://www.efloras.org/browse.aspx?flora_id=110&start_taxon_id=127871

and there is no shame in holding on to a set of pictures as Dubia like ... taught us until such time that our reading and knowledge catches up with our camera shutters.
... go thru the list on that page link in ... post, take each species and read about it, google it etc etc to find your sp id. if the latest exercise does not yield, let it rest, it will come to us/you
It is Isodon lophanthoides

Has anything changed since last discussion? 

I have shot few images yesterday. I shall post in few days time.

OK.

Yes, you seems to be right in view of your post at Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara

However it has already been identified  I am enclosing some fresh images showing purple tint in the petal margins shot recently at the same location as earlier images as promised
you earlier. I guess there is no doubt left now.
Location: Nagarkot, Nepal  
Date: 27 October 2018
Elevation: 6800 ft.
Habit : Wild
Attachments (5)- around 600 kb each. 





Yes. I agree with you.

 
 
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03-10-09- On the way from Kas to Mahabaleshwar; Mahabaleshwar, Nov 2009; Isodon lophanthoides - indiantreepix | Google GroupsIs it Isodon lophanthoides? - efloraofindia | Google Groups

 
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Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara : 10 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)- 5 mb. 
Location: Okharpauwa, Newakot
Date: 17 October 2019
Elevation: 1712 m.
Habit : Wild 
Two shades !

Attachments (2)- 1 mb and 4 mb.  

Attachments (1)- 5 mb. 
Attachments (1)- 6 mb. 
how about the entire plants pictures right down to the earth?

This time I did not shot that way since I had posted couples earlier.

url of that or those threads please
SK865 17 NOV-2017:ID
but I did not see the purple var plant in entirety. also the second link is the only one with full plant
I just wanted to show the variation of colors.
 
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Iruppu Falls  Coorg
Date: November 12, 2019 ... Altitude range: about 850 - 1,000 m (2,800 - 3,300 ft) asl
Isodon lophanthoides  (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara  

Yes! Nice.
very nice. isodon sounds like a mastodon, long extinct... ha ha
Yes, Isodon lophanthoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) H.Hara



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