Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby (Syn: Cassia arborescens Vahl; Cassia enneaphylla Wight & Arn.; Cassia glauca Lam.; Cassia petropolitana Glaz.; Cassia sulfurea Collad.; Cassia surattensis auct.; Cassia surattensis subsp. glauca (Lam.) K.Larsen & S.S.Larsen; Senna arborescens (Vahl) Roxb.; Wellia tagera Rheede); SEN-nuh -- Latin form of Arabic word for a thorny bush commonly known as: glaucous cassia, golden senna, scrambled egg tree, Singapore shower, smooth senna, sulphur-flowered senna, sunshine tree, Surat senna • Gujarati: કાસીદ kasid • Kannada: ಬೆಟ್ಟದವರೆ bettadavare • Marathi: मोठा तरवड motha tarvad • Tamil: குண்டுப்பூக்கொன்றை kuntu-p-pu-k-konrai, மஞ்சட்கொன்றை mancat-konrai, வெள்ளைத்தகரை vellai-t-takarai, வெள்ளாவிரை vel-l-avirai, வெண்டகரை ventakarai • Telugu: మెట్ట తంగేడు metta tangedu Native to: India, Sri Lanka India (N); Andhra Pradesh; Arunachal Pradesh ; Assam ; Bihar ; Delhi ; Goa ; Gujarat ; Haryana; Himachal Pradesh ; Jammu-Kashmir ; Karnataka ; Kerala ; Madhaya Pradesh; Maharashtra ; Manipur ; Meghalaya; Mizoram ; Nagaland ; Orissa ; Pondicherry ; Punjab ; Rajasthan ; Sikkim ; Tamil Nadu ; Tripura ; Uttar Pradesh ; West Bengal & other countries as per ILDIS; Small tree with 15-30 cm long leaves; leaflets 4-6 pairs, ovate or elliptic, 4-10 cm long, rounded at apex, glands clavate between lowest two pairs of leaflets, petiole 4-6 cm long; flowers yellow in axillary racemes on up to 10 cm long peduncle; sepals unequal; petals bright yellow, ovate to obovate; stamens 10, all fertile with short thick filaments; pod flat, up to 20 cm long, 13-18 mm broad, 20-30 seeded. Perhaps the whole situation has to be looked carefully. Flora of China seems to be very confident about number of leaflets 4-6 pairs (usually 5 pairs) and C. glauca as synonym of S. sulphurea., whereas those unaware of S. sulphurea (Fl Pakistan, Hortus Third) who simply treat C. glauca as synonym of S. surattensis directly mention 4-10 pairs of leaflets in the species. The Plant List follows Flora of China whereas GRIN treats S. sulfurea a S. surattensis subsp. sulfurea (DC. ex Collad.) Randell (a 1989 publication whereas Irwin & Barneby combination as Senna sulfurea is 1982). It seems that Cassia glauca Lamk. described in Flora of British India (although leaflet number is not mentioned) should be Senna sulfurea wherea Cassia glauca var. suffruticosa Koenig. (C. suffruticosa Wall. Cassia speciosa Roxb; with 16-18 smaller leaflets) is true Senna surattensis.
Sharing the images of Cassia glauca from Coimbatore. I think this is a perennial herb/shrub. Perennial Shrub
Fabaceae- Caesalpinioidea (Caesalpiniaceae) Week : Senna surattensis from Pune.: Senna surattensis photographed at Koregaon park , Pune. Dated- 03 rd July 2011. I would say Senna sulfurea Thanks sir your mail note -" Looking for true Senna surattensis " clears all doubts. In this Senna pic features are-
Senna sulfurea Indeed.
I think this should be Senna sulfurea (syn: Cassia glauca) Number of leaflets don't seem to be exceeding 6 pairs. Yes Sir I could also observe only 6 pairs in pics
Senna sulfurea (Collad.) Irwin & Barneby, Mem. New York Bot. Gard. 35: 78. 1982. syn: Cassia sulfurea Collad.; C. glauca Lam.; Senna surattensis (Burm. f.) H. S. Irwin & Barneby subsp. sulfurea (DC. ex Collad.) Randell Small tree with 15-30 cm long leaves; leaflets 4-6 pairs, ovate or elliptic, 4-10 cm long, rounded at apex, glands clavate between lowest two pairs of leaflets, petiole 4-6 cm long; flowers yellow in axillary racemes on up to 10 cm long peduncle; sepals unequal; petals bright yellow, ovate to obovate; stamens 10, all fertile with short thick filaments; pod flat, up to 20 cm long, 13-18 mm broad, 20-30 seeded. Photographed from Khalsa College Delhi and Morni hills, Haryana ... Cassia ¿ species ?: A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near Yeoor Hills, photos taken on 22 AUG 09. My friend ... has already commented in Flickr about this plant to be Cassia spectabilis. Please validate ID. looks like Cassia glauca I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis (Syn S. excelsa, S. carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S. spectabilis has roundish to squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage present. This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not positive of that ID. could it be cassia fistula? Please check up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree ..., many thanks, but not Cassia fistula ... ..., you may be correct. My own first thought matches that of ... (I will check later, faintly recollect S. surattensis and C. glauca are synonymous). ... ID seems correct to me. Cassia glauca, now known as Senna surattensis, has glaucus pinnate leaves, 5-petalled flowers, and flat seedpods up to 20 cm long. The habit also looks right - it is more commonly seen as a shrub. Not Cassia fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long pods. This one seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that looks different to me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our garden don't have such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble. pictures of Cassia fistula pods and flowers for your reference.. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=43989 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=51252 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=101448 yesterday i id it as Cassia glauca, but some how it is missing in the thread, what do you think about my this wild guess? in the other thread of the same topic i came to know that new name of Cassia glauca is Senna surattensis, my confusion is now clear. it is Cassia glauca Lamk., Encyclop. Meth. Bot. 1: 647, 1785; Baker in Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 265, 1879; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 1: 453, 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 179, 1998. Synonyms: Senna sulphurea (DC. ex Collard) Irwin and Barneby in Mem. New York Bot. Gard. 35(1): 78, 1982; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 244, 2005. C. surattensis Burm. f. ssp. glauca (Lamk.) K. & S. Larsen, Fl. C.L.V. 18: 102, 1980; Singh et al, Fl. Mah. St. 1: 790, 1996. C. arborescens Vahl, Symb. Bot. 3: 56, 1794. C. sulphurea DC ex Collad. Hist. Nat. Med. Casses 84, 1816. Robinia javanica Burm. f. Fl. Ind. 163, 1768 (non C. javanica L., 1753). Senna arborescens Roxb. Fl. Ind. 2: 345, 1832. C. fastigiata Vahl. Symb. 3: 57, 1974. Common names: Karud, Motha-tarved. C. surattensis is a synonym of C. glauca. the pod with a beak at the other end is one of a diagnosing character very important diagnosing character is ALL 10 STAMENS ARE FERTILE. stalked glands present on the rachis at lowermost 2-3 pairs of leaflets i hope this may clear the doubts abt ID. Many thanks, ..., for validating the ID and providing its specifics. Current accepted name would be Senna surattensis (as ... has already pointed earlier in this thread). How do we follow current accepted names in India ? Is there any body in India which regulates / maintains such information and knowledge ? If there is, does it imply that there would be chance that a species is known by different names across the world, at any given time ? 'Cassia glauca ' is called 'Motha Tarvad' 'मोठा तरवड' in Marathi. So now, we have to say... 'Senna surattensis' is called 'Motha Tarvad' 'मोठा तरवड' in Marathi. I know that most of the shrubby plants (and some of the trees) formerly in Cassia were shifted to Senna approximately 10-15 years ago. Some name changes involved simply swapping the genera names; others were not as direct as the example recently discussed. Most of the tree species in Senna have rather ill-smelling (when crushed) foliage; I believe all are yellow-flowered. Cassia may be pink, red, white, yellow. I'm not certain what other characteristics were used (perhaps DNA) to separate the two genera. The GRIN listing is generally accepted as the standard for most genera here in the USA. Here is their listing for Senna: ....................... And for Cassia: ........................... These lists are not, however, complete, I believe. (I cannot locate, for example, Cassia angolensis, which I believe is considered valid.) Hopefully they will provide some use here. i say that Cassia is preffered over Senna please visit following link http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9339 it is the rules and articles of ICBN-International code of Botanical Nomenclature that decides the accepted names of a genus or a species or a family. there are many articles of the code and the plant name which is validly published as on 1 may 1753 were considered valid and correct. however there were many ammendements done the outsoming were mentioned as code. the latest of which is Vienna 2005. if a plant name or a genus is (not validly) published then that the later name of the same plant or the genus which is validly published (at an later date) is given priority over the previously not validly published name. thats why we have two or more names of same plants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Botanical_Nomenclature http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/default.htm http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/SaintLouis/0000St.Luistitle.htm ... thank you very much for the information. NPGS / GRIN and KEW are best suited for me !!! ... your wild guess was correct in one sense. Cassia glauca Lam. and C. surattensis Burm.f. are both synonyms of now correctly known Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby. At the finer level true surattensis with larger (2-4 inches) leafets in 4-6 pairs, pods 6-8 inches long and known as Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby subsp. surattensis, whereas C. glauca Lam. (C. glauca var. suffruticosa Koenig in Flora of British India) with 6-9 pair of smaller leaflets (1-2 inches) and smaller pods (3-4 inches. is Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & Barneby subsp. sulphurea (DC. ex Collad) Randell. And now an interesting one. C. glauca Lam. was published in 1789, whereas C. surattensis Burm.f. in 1768, and hence latter gets priority when two are treated as same species. At subspecies level, true surattensis is subsp. surattensis (no authority, as it is automatically created name if we treat C. glauca as distinct subspecies-it is autonym). and now you will ask why not to use subsp. glauca as name. Well Cassia glauca Lam, 1789 and C. sulphurea DC. ex Collad., 1816 are synonyms, and hence former is prefered, but when transferred to genus Senna (all 10 stamens perfect) Senna glauca Roxb., is already used for a different species, and sulphurea gets preference. I think we should follow GRIN for species which are listed (many Indian species are not) and Kew World checklist species (for families which have been ccompleted). For rest we can always develop a concensus. Code has no provisions for guiding us whether all species should be placed in Cassia, or those with all ten fertile stamens under Senna. Code also has no control over whether taxonomic synonyms like C. glauca and C. surattensis should be treated as synonyms or distinct species, or else else distinct subspecies within same species. Code here helps us how to choose names. We would be better placed to follow GRIN, Kew World checklist, and our consensus, when database is updated. Concluding this posted plant to be Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby ... discussed at https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/J1oMl3KjS18 Agreed ...
A small tree about 5 meters. Leaflets mostly 5 pairs. Planted on road leading to ARAI on Vetal Tekdi.Pune. Considering the earlier discussions I find this close to ... plant IDed by ... as Senna sulfurea rather than S. surattensis. Please validate. Yes ...
EN-nuh -- Latin form of Arabic word for a thorny bush sur-rat-EN-sis -- of or from Surat (Gujarat, India) Jun 21, 2007 ... near Yeoor Hills, Thane, Maharashtra commonly known as: glaucous cassia, golden senna, scrambled egg tree, Singapore shower, smooth senna, sulphur-flowered senna, sunshine tree, Surat senna • Gujarati: કાસીદ kasid • Kannada: ಬೆಟ್ಟದವರೆ bettadavare • Marathi: मोठा तरवड motha tarvad • Tamil: குண்டுப்பூக்கொன்றை kuntu-p-pu-k-konrai, மஞ்சட்கொன்றை mancat-konrai, வெள்ளைத்தகரை vellai-t-takarai, வெள்ளாவிரை vel-l-avirai, வெண்டகரை ventakarai • Telugu: మెట్ట తంగేడు metta tangedu Native to: India, Sri Lanka more views: Aug 22, 2009 ... near Yeoor Hills, Thane, Maharashtra I wonder whether this should be Senna sulfurea (4-6 pairs of leaflets; leaves 15-30 cm long; stalk of fruit 10-20 mm long) or Senna surattensis (leaflets 6-9 pairs; leaves 10-15 cm long; stalk of fruit 6-7 mm long). I wonder if we really have true Senna surattensis in India. I would be happy if some one uploads one. Many thanks ... for validating this ID. Had earlier (long back) labelled it as Cassia glauca The single photo of Jun 21, 2007 is one of the same plants that was photographed after two years on Aug 22, 2009. 5 pairs of leaflets, their sizes uniformly increasing as they near the tip of the stalk. The size of the leaflets, relatively has reduced, with the plant maturing. In the matured plant, the largest leaflet measures about 20 - 25 mm, the entire leaf about 10 - 12 cm. The seedpod measures about 12 - 15 cm long X 10 - 12 mm wide, comprising about 18 - 20 seeds. Posting more attachments (cropped versions of already attached photos); perhaps may help in getting to the ID. Perhaps the whole situation has to be looked carefully. Flora of China seems to be very confident about number of leaflets 4-6 pairs (usually 5 pairs) and C. glauca as synonym of S. sulphurea., whereas those unaware of S. sulphurea (Fl Pakistan, Hortus Third) who simply treat C. glauca as synonym of S. surattensis directly mention 4-10 pairs of leaflets in the species. The Plant List follows Flora of China whereas GRIN treats S. sulfurea a S. surattensis subsp. sulfurea (DC. ex Collad.) Randell (a 1989 publication whereas Irwin & Barneby combination as Senna sulfurea is 1982). It seems that Cassia glauca Lamk. described in Flora of British India (although leaflet number is not mentioned) should be Senna sulfurea wherea Cassia glauca var. suffruticosa Koenig. (C. suffruticosa Wall. Cassia speciosa Roxb; with 16-18 smaller leaflets) is true Senna surattensis. Perhaps some one has to find this true Senna surattensis with (6-9 pairs of leaflets; leaflets 2.5-5 cm, obtuse at tip) as against we usually find S. sulfurea (C. glauca) with 4-6 pairs of larger leaflets (4 to 10 cm long), which most of us are finding and uploading. Your analysis prompted me to go through the Senna PDF (Flora of China) http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/PDF10/Senna.pdf ... the plant in my upload is quite close to Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby (syn. Cassia glauca Lam.) Seeking clarification regarding these two points: 1) the stipules in my plant ... can they be considered as linear ? 2) the clavate glands on rachis between each of lowest 3 pairs of leaflets ... in description, put as 2 ... can it be considered as possible variation ? Have re-attached the relevant image files for ready reference. If the considerations are positive, then my plant must be Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby ... though aware that Cassia glauca Lam. is treated differently by the top organizations. Your thoughts. Yes ... both your plant, and uploaded by me today, and others as Senna surattensis should all belong to Senna sulfurea. Occurrence of gland in third pair is no issue as both Revised Handbook of Ceylone and Flora of Pakistan mention glands between lower 2-4 pairs of leaflets. I got slightly confused with smaller size of leaflets in your cropped image but those in your original upload match mine. We should now wait for some one uploading leaves with 6-9 pairs of leaflets, smaller leaflets shorter than 3.5 cm, shorter leaf (less than 15 cm long) and shorter pod (7-10 cm long) the true Senna surattensis. 1: So what is the final diagnosis of this plant...?? 2: if its not s. surattensis ... should the subject line be changed so that whoever takes care of this thread in indiatreepix website would have an easy time? to me it look like Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby, it is planted as an avenue tree in Navi Mumbai and Thane few year ago,, whereas Cassia glauca is an shrub, no doubt they both look quite similar, but can be differentiated once the plant sample is in your hand.. yes very much Senna surattensis present in India and surattensis name itself is the prove that name after Surat in Gaujarat.. To see Cassia glauca (Senna glauca) visit Mumbai University garden (Fort).. some live specimens are there.. No one denies the fact that Senna surratensis is present in India The confusion has arisen because most books consider C. glauca as synonym of Senna surattensis, and leaflet number is written as 4-9 pair. Let us for a moment discard our fixed ideas and go to Flora of British India, which also had confusion about the synonymy but had two taxa in mind" Cassia glauca: tall tree, with 15-25 cm long leaves, 5-10 cm long (although leaflet number is not mentioned simply saying 16-18 in var. suffruticosa is more numerous means they are less than 16) Cassia glauca var. suffruticosa: leaflets 16-18, smaller more numerous, 2.5-5 cm long; flowers and pod much smaller, pod not more than 10 cm long. Now compare this with Flora of China Senna sulfurea: leaflets 4-6 pairs, 4-10 cm long, ; leaves 15-30 cm long; pod 12-20 cm long, : Senna surattensis: Leaflets 6-9 pairs, 2-5 cm long; leaves 10-15 cm; pod 7-10 cm Now compare this with Flora of British India and decide. Flora of China describes both as shrubs or small trees, so does Handbook of Flora of Ceylone. We have to realise that there is confusion in literature and we will come out of it with careful analysis of facts and not what we think about the plant. My plant of Senna sulfurea is still labelled as S. surattensis, but we hve to accept facts as they emerge. I would be happy if you provide some concrete evidence to support if you think otherwise. And ye inspite of several confusions,The Plant list treats Cassia suffruticosa as synonym of S. surattensis and not S. sulfurea For once let us agree with Flora of China, a very recent Flora, forget every other thing and see where our specimens fit: Senna sulfurea or Senna surattensis. Yes, its very confusing, for the time being, i do not understand why Cassia glauca not consider for combination under Senna inspite of earlier priority (1785), whereas sulfurea (1816).. I guess many authors treated Cassia glauca as Cassia surrattensis wrongly many a time,, that created much confusion.. even i guess Cassia suffruticosa is synonym of Cassia surattensis will search for more details and inform all about the species whatever i come through literature Yes ..., that is a million dollar question Why Cassia sufurea Collad. (1816) as basionym and not Cassia glauca Lam. (1783) Perhaps some one will explore the clue, if original paper by Irwin and Barneby can be found. Perhaps I got the answer too soon Cassia glauca Lam. could not be used as basionnym as name Senna glauca Roxb, already existed for a species which is synonym for Senna timoriensis (DC.) Irwin & Barneby (based on Cassia timoriensis DC,) and a combination under Senna based on Cassia glauca would have made it a later homonym. Later homonyms are rejected even if the earlier name (in this case Senna glauca DC.) is not accepted name.
leaflet 5 pairs pls validate A nice series of recently much discussed plant we always thought to be Senna surattensis.
Cassia sp. from garden of Barapani Lake: Attached images are Cassia Sp. Please ID for this species. Date :19/10/2012 Location: Garden, Barapani Lake, Shillong Habit : Tree Flower : Large, Yellow in colour Fruits : seen It is Cassia glauca.
Bush around 4-5 feet in height. Picture taken on the 30 th of Nov,2011. i think this is Cassia surattensis Species can't be identified without leaves in this genus As per my mail another day, we have yet to find true specimens of Senna surratensis from India in our database. Sir ji one more picture with leaves. I have some more pictures taken in Pune & Muscat...will try sending those by evening. Infact I have pictures of all kinds, lack of time is my greatest problem. Yes clearly Senna sulfurea
Cassia sp. from Coimbatore: Pl. find the attached file contain photos of cassia sp. for id confirmation. Location: Padmavathi Ammal School, Coimbatore. Date: 10.12.2011. Habitat: Garden Habit: Tree Looks like Cassia surattensis. There are sub species in this. Please check. Senna sulfurea
Cassia for ID : 260112 : Oman : AK-1: Some more cassia pictures. A bush in one of the gardens here, in Muscat. Picture taken on 5/10/06. A cultivated, garden plant. This picture was taken long before I joined eflora. I hope again Senna sulfurea
Requesting ID of this yellow Cassia plant - Mumbai :30072013 : ARK-03 : May 2013 : Attachments (6). 4 posts by 3 authors. Requesting to please ID this plant captured in a cultivated garden in Mumbai in May 2013. A species of cassia perhaps? Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby [=Cassia glauca] to me. Thank you ... for the ID... Is the dent in the pod an indication of it being Senna sulfurea?
FJ 11 041113 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1). Please ID this legume with yellow flowers. Photo was taken in Fiji in Sep 2013 I think it is Senna sulfurea (= S. surattensis subsp. sulfurea).
SL 202 071213 : Attachments (1). 3 posts by 3 authors. Please ID this Fabaceae shrub with yellow flowers. Photo was taken in Sri Lanka in Sep 2012. Cassia glauca (Caesalpinoideae) Senna sulphurea I hope https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/cassia
Cassia seen at a garden in Bangalore. Species id please. Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby syn. enna glauca. Cassia glauca. Common name Golden Senna, Bush Senna, Glaucous Cassia I also believe that the plant is Senna pendula Thanks for the id of my Cassia. Is Senna glauca and Senna pendula the same? Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby is the valid name as per the plantlist. Please check this link. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/ild-24593. Other names viz. Senna glauca. Cassia glauca are synonyms. Please note. Senna pendula is a different species As understood now Senna surattensis and S. glauca (now known as S. sulphurea) are two distinct species. As per Flora of China (I consider one of the most reliable): Senna surattensis (N. L. Burman) H. S. Irwin & Barneby: Leaflets 6-9 pairs; leaves 10-15 cm; stipe of legume 5-7 mm. Senna sulfurea (Colladon) H. S. Irwin & Barneby (syn: Cassia glauca Lamarck; Senna surattensis (N. L. Burman) H. S. Irwin & Barneby subsp. glauca (Lamarck) X. Y. Zhu: Leaflets 4-6 pairs; leaves 15-30 cm; stipe of legume 10-20 mm. Both have flattened pod more than 1 cm broad. S. pendula has 3-5 pairs of smaller leaflets (up to 4 cm long; 4-10 cm long in S. sulfurea and 2-5 cm in S. surattensis), flowers smaller flowers (10-13 mm broad; more than 2 cm broad in other two) but more importantly pods are cylindrical. ... can check especially fruits to decide ID. Many thanks for the details. I leave it to the experts to decide since I am not one and these are the only pictures I have. 70-TSP-ID-30MAY2016-1:Senna sp @ Tumkur for ID : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (7) Kindly identify this Senna sp (Fabaceae) Habit: Shrub Habitat: Wild, wasteland by railway line Sighting: Tumkur, Karnataka, about 800 msl Date: 21-07-2014 Comparative images of Senna species in efi Any close up of leaves to show the presence or absence of glands? ..., No closer images of leaves.Will try to revisit the plant and try to get some close ups. Perhaps it is Senna siamea Please check for Senna surattensis. I think matches with images at Senna sulfurea (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby
MS Oct.2015/02 Caesalpiniaceae for ID : Attachments (5) Habit : large shrub or small tree Habitat : Cultivated Date : 30/10/2015 Genus : Senna Senna surattensis ? it is Senna surattense References: |
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