Cucumis sativus


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cucumber • Assamese: তিয়ঁহ tiyoh, তিঁহু tihu • Bengali: শশা sasa • Gujarati: કાકડી kakadi • Hindi: खीरा khira • Kannada: ಸೌತೆಕಾಯಿ sautekayi • Kashmiri: लौरू loru • Konkani: तौशे taushe • Lushai: fang-hma • Malayalam: വെള്ളരി vellari • Manipuri: থবী thabi • Marathi: काकडी kakadi, कांकडी kankadi, खिरा khira, तवशी tavashi • Nepalese: काँक्रो kankro, खिरो khiro • Oriya: kakudi • Persian: خيار khiyar • Prakrit: खीरओ khira-o • Punjabi: ਖੀਰਾ khira • Sanskrit: अल्पणः alpanah, अल्पणकः alpanakah, चर्भटी charbati, ईर्वारुः irvaaruh, क्षीरकः kshirakah, त्रपुलम् trapulam, त्रपुसम् trapusam • Sindhi: وَنگيِ vangii • Tamil: வெள்ளரி vellari • Telugu: దోస dosa, కీర kira • Urdu: کهيرا khira;


 
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Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii at Pachmarhi :: 19 SEP 13 :: DV : 5 images. 3 posts by 3 authors.
Pachmarhi ... about 3600 feet ft asl
Date / Time: 19 SEP 13 at 07:21 AM ... Altitude: about 3568 ft asl
Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Alef. ... (family: Cucurbitaceae)
I strongly hope I am correct with this cucumis ID; ... and all those now familiar with this plant, please validate. 
Yes ... Recently I photographed several almost ripe fruits about 5-6 cm long from Jim Corbett area, which locals said are very bitter.
I am uploading one.
 
 
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Cucumis sativus?-----for sharing and validation : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
Pic of Kakadi, taken at ambyvalley rd., lonavala, pune in oct13.
Affirmative. This is the Wild Cucumber [Cucumis trigonus, now possibly called C.sativus var. hardwickii]. The local name is Karit / Davderi. Please check this link :
Google Groups
Yes Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, very common wild form in sub Himalayan region in North India.
  
 
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Hooghly : Cucumis sativus L. : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).
I live in a village yet it is unbelievable that I don't have any profile of the most common member of our salad dish. So I purchased a few seeds, about Rs.1/- each. The first photo was taken on the 17th this month and the rest are yesterday.
Characteristic Cucumis sativus angular leaves
Thank you Sir, hope they flowers and fruits in due time.
Out of 5 seedlings only one survives and is now flowering. Attachments (4).
Photographs of the first fruit and leaves variability in cultivated species. Attachments (5).
 
 
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Cucumis sativus : Cucurbitaceae : Bangalore : 150914 : AK-10 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).   
Seen in the Bangalore market in Nov,2013.
I observed that the portion near the stem was dark green in color than the rest
Yes ..., the garden cucumber. The darker portion is sometimes bitter. We used to cut the top cap, rub it on the exposed portion when milky substance (supposed to be bitter) comes out. We used to cut off another 1 cm piece and discard both top pieces. 
Thanks ... Yes, In India I remember we did the same before eating.
 
 
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Cucumis prophetarum L. SN Sep 50 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).  
Cucumis prophetarum L., slender wild climber from Sirsi area of Karnataka
Not really
This should be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii
In C. prophetarum fruit is softly echinate- efi thread
this should be interesting- efi thread
 
 
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ANSEPT64 Cucurbitaceae for ID : 7 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2).
Chikamagalur-Kemmangudi Road
13th September 2014

Perhaps it is Cucumis sativus
Angular leaves suggest possibility of C. sativus L., so I copy ..., perhaps it is .... but in wild? Was there any residence or market nearby?
How big is the flower? C. s. var hardwickii?
This plant was growing atleast 10 km away from the nearest town, right in the middle of the western ghats.
I have seen Cucumis sativus flowers in Bangalore and this one was definitely bigger in size although I dont have an exact measurement..
Clearly Cucumis sativus. I have seen flowers about 10-15 mm in Delhi, but up to 20 mm across in Kashmir and California, in colder climates.
My record is 2 cm across and I have found an article stating var. hardwickii is of same size.
 
 
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ANDEC61 Is this a Cucumis sp.? : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5).
Haven't seen fruits like this before
Trekking route to Mussoorie
November 2014
This is similar to efi thread under Cucumis melo and similar to some other posts under C. m. ssp. agrestis var. agrestis.
Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, the progenitor of cultivated cucumber
Mine photographed last year from Jim Corbett  
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Yours one is muricated fruit, natural for wild cucumber. We may not have this one in greater Bengal of British raj. ... fruit looked somewhat trigonus to me. But, I must be wrong here.
..., Your plant may be the one as ... identifies. Attached the relevant lit.
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Cucumis sp.rmp 30122015 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Please help me to ID Cucumis sp. 
Cucumis species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)  
I think it is Cucumis sativus only in light of previous discussions...  https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/cucumis/cucumis-sativus
 
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Cucumis sativus forma hardwickii ?? ATJAN2015/06 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Is it Cucumis sativus forma hardwickii ??
Place: Hamirpur (H.P.)
Sept-Oct., 2015
Yes ..., I had uploaded same from Mussoorie Chakrata Road
Thank you, respected sir. People in Himachal use fruits of this plant for diabetes. But I do not know whether effective or not.
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Cucumis species for ID : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (9)
Plant was found at Kasara, Maharashtra in Aug 2016. 
Looks like C. melo.
Cucumis sativus I hope
Thanks, ..., for nice images
 
 
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Diplocyclos palmatus-----for sharing and validation : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
Pics taken at Aambyvalley Rd., Lonavala, Pune in dec.16
It could be Cucumis sativus, not Diplocyclos.
Thanks for correction ...


 
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Re: Another Cucurbitaceae : 3 posts by 2 authors. 5 images.
Location Wayanad Kerala
Please identify

Thanks, ...  Pl. check comparative images at family page efi site at Cucurbitaceae
Pl. check with images at Cucumis sativus L.    
 
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Cucumis sativus var. sativus;
 

Cucumis sativus cultivar 'Burpless Tasty Green';
foot in Punjabi;
 

  
 
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I am uploading Cucumis sativus var. sativus the common cucumber characterised by small tubercles on young fruits which disappear in mature fruits.
I am also uploading Dosakai a fruit often sold in Indian markets especially South India, a yellow nearly spherical cucumber, often added to sambar, soup, daal and also for making Dosa-Avakaya pickle and chutney. It is frequently sold in Guntur. Members are requested to find and upload photographs of plant and fruit from India. This one was being sold in an Indian store here.
Also in the focus should be Cucumis sativus var. sikkimensis, Sikkim or Nepal cucumber. It is common in Eastern parts of India.
Members from Western India should locate and upload Puneri cucumber, also known as Poona kheera a light yellow delicious cucumber.
And finally Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, the wild bitter cucumber growing in NW India. 

Dosakai is confirmed as Cucumis melo as per discussions in another thread.
 
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Wild, native and little known species
Cucumis setosus Cogn. in Monographiae Phanerogamarum 3: 491. 1881.
Picture taken at Pasarani Ghat (Wai Taluka)
12/10/2008
Distribution Maharashtra and West M. P.
One of the underutilized fruit vegetable. [Biodiversity in horticultural crop.vol.1 By K.V. Peter, Z. Abraham]
 

 
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identification no 120811sn1:  Is it Momordica dioica? Taken at Mulshi,Pune in Aug.11.Kindly validate.

Perhaps either I am confused or you three. Firstly the leaves in M. dioica are deeply lobed and secondly the corolla is deeply divided nearly up to the base.
To me this plant looks like Cucumis sativus

I too think that this is Cucumis sativus L. of Cucurbitaceae family.
I have been following this thread from the minute it appeared... I see many KAKROL plants in rural bengal as we drive by... and sometimes stop... to look... this did not at first glance look like Kakrol (M dioica)  we see here....
AND I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE DOUBTING>>>MAKES ME FEEL GOOD THAT my doubts (although arising out if technical ignorance)  were well founded... See ...comments...
This what I have learnt from this thread........
1) Photography and presentation of the question:
For any unknown cucurbitacaee it is important to not just get good shots of the face of flowers and leaves (front and Back) but measure the flowers across... and if possible ( like it was here, since the maker is holding the flower...) take a profile view of the flower... this is esp so in case of separate male and female flowers...   or plant itself being one or the other sex...  ands so that the length of the flower tube, abd pedicle etc is visible and be judged...
2) Not to start agreeing with one or two or three well known botanist (s) ...  until an exacting taxonomist studies it...
Curucumis sativus... the ordinary cucumber is miles apart in terms of fruits' anatomy and medicinal values from Mamordica dioica.... SO we learnt a valuable lesson today... 

Cucumber ID:  Recently I got a small oval pale green cucumber from Wayanad. It looked very much like a Chow-chow/ Chayote without the ridges but tasted like cucumber and had similar seeds. Unfortunately in my hurry to taste it I neglected to take a picture and I had just the one!  I did find a picture which is similar but am not posting it since it's not my own. It can be viewed here <http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/220046/> The name given is Cucumis Sativus. I would like to know if this is correct and if there are any local names.
I think two cucurbits are mixed in the photograph. The fruits do belong to said plant but the flowers on the left belong to Cucurbita sp. This is how Cucumis sativus 'Crystal apple' looks http://www.acatinthekitchen.com/2008/08/25/crystal-apple-cucumber/ http://gstuff.co.nz/shop/garden/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat... http://www.garden.ie/whatsnew.aspx?id=3499&archive=1008
Thank you. Hope to get a picture to post here the next time I'm in Wayanad.
None of the pictures in the links look exactly like the one I got. 
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Flora of Chakrata: Cucumis sativus from Chakrata Mussorie Road:  Mussorie Moor marg
It has written as conspecific to C hardwickii Royle in Flora of mussoories

 
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cucumis species mm1 09102011: cucumis species
is it cucumis melo ?
flowers were about 15 mm
the locals call it jangli watermelon
Yes Sir C sativus

 
 
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Cucurbitaceae Week :: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii in Vaghbil:   Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Alef.
KOO-koo-mis -- from the Greek kykyon, meaning cucumber... Dave's Botanary
sa-TEE-vus -- cultivated... Dave's Botanary
¿ hard-wik-ee-eye ? -- ¿ named for Thomas Hardwicke, English soldier and naturalist ? ... Wikipedia
Sep 18, 2010 ... at Vaghbil, Thane, Maharashtra
commonly known as: bitter cucumber, wild cucumber
Native to : s China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand
References: discussion at efloraofindiaDNP, Thailand
more views:Sep 18, 2010 ... at Vaghbil, Thane, Maharashtra 
 
Cucurbitceae Week- For identification from Chakrata:  This had been photographed from Chakrata in September 2011. This plant looks similar to Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii uploaded by ... hope to get the identification..
Yes ..., your plant resembles mine.
My belief too: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii.

Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus var. sativus from Panipat: This one is Cucumis sativus var. sativus shot from a cultivation near Panipat. Known as Kheera, this is a significant part of our "Salad"
 
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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii from Mussoorie Chakrata Road near Kalsi: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii
Was found growing wild along Chakrata road with small fruits. Pl. validate.
As regards the identity, I think this has been concluded...as we have got no comments/doubts from our expert group till now...
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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus from Lohari Panipat:
Sorry...... This is Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii. Shot from Chakrata
 
 
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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus from Kashmir and California: Cucumis sativus Linn., Sp. Pl. 1012. 1753
Cucumber, Khira
Annual climber differing from related C. melo in its acutely angled leaves and prickly ovary and young fruits (softly hairy in C. melo). Comes in a number of cultivars. 
Photographed from California and Kashmir.
 
 
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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus cultivars: Here are some of the cultivars of Cucumis sativus 
Dosakai cucumber is nearly rounded yellow cucumber from India, commonly cooked as curry, added to sambar, daal and soup and in making pickle dosa-aavakaaya. Also grown and sold in California where it was photographed. 
Cucumis-sativus-sativus-pickle-Calfonia-1 the small fruited form commonly used for making pickles. 
Cucumis-sativus-WANGAAN_Rajasthan-2 This interesting cultivar commonly grown and sold in Raasthan has no information available on net, or known to me. My daughter-in-law who hails from Karanpur near Ganganagar brought these fruits known as Wangaan, commonly used as cucumber there. Any information would be welcomed.

Dosakai is confirmed as Cucumis melo as per discussions in another thread.
What about the Thuraiya we get in summer in jhansi delhi. Is it Luffa sp
 
Cucurbitaceae Week: Looking for Puna kheera or Puneri cucumber:  Perhaps this time some member is able to upload (atleast from market) this popular cucumber known as Puna kheera Puneri cucumber
http://www.seedsofindia.com/item/Cucumber-Puneri-Poona-Kheera-33
Oh. These ones are what we eat almost daily being a Puneri. Haven't captured yet in my camera. Will upload soon when I get a chance.
 
 
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Cucurbitaceae week: Spiny Cucumber - Cucumis sativus from Sirsi:  Kela Hanumanti
Sirsi, Uttara Kannada
Photo date: 12 Oct2010
....this one perhaps retains the spines even on maturity of fruit and the size of spines is also bit larger, the "kheera" we have here do not have any spines on mature fruits and also the spines on young fruits are considerably smaller..
We do have two such types of cucumber in Kashmir. One which is grown on floating gardens of Dal lake (Dal kheera) is normal large kheera that we get in markets without visible tubercles, whereas one to generally grow in our kitchen gardens (similar to one uploaded by ...) is lighter in colour, smaller in size and prominent tubercles which don't rub off easily. We used to call it baghi kheera, mush tastier than Dal kheera one.
 
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Cucurbitaceae Week : For ID : Mumbai : 070412 : Ak-1: Cucurbitaceae seen at the Fruit, Flower & Vegetable Show at Rani Bagh in Feb,2012.
A climber.
To me it looks like Cucumis sativus, cucumber only. Perhaps flowers and better view of leaves help.
Sir ji, there were no flowers present.
A young fruit was also of the same color.
Fruit must be larger and healthy in healthy plant. It is not healthy plant as severe infestation of leaf miner is visible in picture. Leaf mines affect photosynthesis to great extent which results in small fruit size. Organically, it can be managed by Chloroxylon and Cleistanthus based Traditional Formulations. 
All these were in the vegetable section of the flower show.
I believe these plants were from RCF....Rashtriya Chemical Fertilizers.
So it is very unlikely that an unhealthy plant would be kept on display.
A very young fruit also had this color.
Thanks for your reply. May be you are right.
"Rashtriya Chemical Fertilizers. " !!!!!! By the way the attack of leaf miner is directly correlated with excess use of Nitrogenous fertilizers. ;)
 
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Cucumber for ID : Nasik : 221011 : AK-3:   Taken at a farm at Nasik, Maharashtra on the 24th of August,11.
Flower was about 1 inch and the fully grown cucumber about 10-11 inches.
Size much bigger than the ones we see normally.
 
 
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Cucumis callosum syn C. trigonus : 19112012 : RV 1:  
Would like to share few pictures of Cucumis callosus syn C. trigonus taken on 15th Nov12........the pulp has dried up, crumbled, collapsed and has collected at the bottom with the seeds clearly seen. I made a small tear in the dried skin of the fruit to get the picture of the seeds. One can see the black prickles still on the dried skin.
I noticed that during Diwali days till narakchawdes / kaalichawdes, it is sold in the market by vegetable vendors, on inquiring, some people who were buying it, they told me a very interesting ritual connected with this vegetable during Diwali.....in Maharashtra's Konkan area and specially in Goa, on narakchawdes, the bitter ‘Kaarit’ (Cucumis trigonus) is crushed by each member of the family, under his/her feet to signify the death of the evil. It also indicates that evil ideas should find place near one’s feet and not in his heart. Same ritual is practiced in many homes in Bombay too during Diwali.
..., are you sure of the id Cucumis trigonus?
As the fruits are spinous, I think it should be Cucumis prophetarum. (Ref.: Flora of Pres. Madras; FoC). Pl correct me if I am wrong.
Nice pictures and useful info, though.
I think it is the same plant that was uploaded by ... and went through the same discussion involving as many as 26 mails. I think the conclusion should apply here also,
Cucumis prophetarum is a very distinct species with strongly echinate fruits, not found here.
Cucumis sativus and C. melo, although with similar looking flowers are easily differentiated on atleast three counts, although both have number varieties/cultivars: in Cucumis sativus the leaves are sharply angular (more or less rounded in C. melo), flowers centre is yellow (pale in C. melo) and very important ovary and young fruits bear tubercles (which may stay in shorter light green dry gardening forms and fall off in dark green longer forms cultivated larger in wetter habitats: these two forms we have in Kashmir former known as Baghi (Garden) kheera and latter Dal kheera (like English cucumber and grown on floating gardens of Dal Lake)). In C. melo on the other hand tubercles ae lacking and ovary and young fruits are covered with hairs which shed off easily.
Cucumis trigonous as mentioned in Flora of British India has "ovary hairy sometimes densely white wooly or silky........distinguished from C. melo only by perennial habit"....no doubt in recent treatments it is either merged totally in C. melo or considered as its variety. Obviously our plant is not this.
The above plant as such is nothing but a form of Cucumis sativus.
Thanks ... for correcting me once again.
 
 
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Plz id this cucumber: pa55 - 13dec2012: Plz id this cucumber also from Mankhurd region. There was dense growth over there so I am confused if the leafs in the last photo are of this plant only. Plz confirm. Tks.
This is the Wild Cucumber [Cucumis trigonus, now possibly called C.sativus var. hardwickii]. The local name is Karit / Davderi.
The leaves featured in Photograph 3 do not belong to this plant.
 
 
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Flora of Kaiga_ID_Plz_14072011 PJ2: Flora of Kaiga_ID_Plz_14072011 PJ2
Date/Time-: 12/05/11 - 10:40
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Climber
Height/Length- 4m

Cucumis prophetarum, perhaps.
I too think that this is Cucumis prophetarum.
If we get a picture of leaves/branch with leaves, it would be easy to confirm. 
It should be C. sativus var. hardwickii as per another thread.
Id may be reviewed pl. in the light of this new thread
 
poona kheera or puneri khira : I am ... from usa. I am south indian.
at my farmers market they sell poona kheera or some say puneri khira.
When is the correct stage to harvest and eat it and is it really an indian cucumber? I asked other indians at the market and they dont know what it is.
I see it sold in various stages
Harvest?http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/photos/d/9728-1/IMG_8297-poonakheera.jpg
Ripe?:http://www.cherrygal.com/images/PoonaKheeraCuke.jpg
Totally overripe and suitable only for saving seeds:http://gardenerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cucumber_poona_kheera.jpg
cream
light green
gold
brown
brown with crackles
small
fat
smooth
bumpy
semi bumpy
do we eat the skin?
Do we eat the seeds?
How do they usually prepare it?
It is Poona khira or Puneri cucumber
There are two cultivars light green when young and nearly white when young, both turning almost brown when nearing maturity and brown with cracks when nearly mature.
Young tender fruits are best for salads, even brown without cracks. those with cracks have ripe seeds. 
I just ate it with no skin. Its tasting kind of bitter. But oddly I also taste hint of honey . Maybe we never are to eat the seed for that gives bitterness? And never eat skin? Some left over rind can give bitter taste? What stage its most fragrant in taste not bitter unless bitter is good for us?
Sorry for all mails its hard to explain all this unless you come to market here in usa and to taste it. Cucumbers often taste bitter in usa. But all the links below show how its sold here

Re: poona kheera or puneri khira : Is it better smooth without bumps?
So you are saying you can eat it
light green
white
which is best 
but it can be eaten
gold yellow
gold brown
and totally brown 
my mom says its too sweet does it get sweeter the older it gets?
I even saw someone sell it almost blackish with cracks. 
No indian at the market today knew what it was. I asked few people.
traditionally how you eat it just raw? Its not for sambar?

When you say young and tender is best how it should be do you have pictures?
Can we eat the seeds? Can we eat the skin?
In india or pune at what stage they ususally eat it?
I've been buying it smooth not bumpy. Usually we peel skin but americans eat the skin and seeds. But the americans say the skin gets tough when brown and with crackles tastes astringent or off.
What is the ideal size and length?
today I bought one the length of my hand in gold yellow and one slightly fatter and longer that looks white like ash gourd. No one knew it was cucumber.
This is a picture from a farmers market. They sold it exactly like this today black with crackles but I was too scared to buy.
http://www.forkandbottle.com/cooking/images/thanks07/poona_kheera_bg.gif
Another farmer sold it like this. I picked out the light ash colored one and yellow one. I tend to look for small and smooth but many farmers sell it large like a melon as shown in first link. Most farmers sell it gold or brown. I need to watch sugar levels so I guess white is better?
http://www.greenling.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/poona-kheera-cucumbers.png
http://i30.servimg.com/u/f30/17/10/59/89/2012-014.jpg
http://www.ozarksgardens.com/pv/DzCNe/16/6/DbJRog/boWxORZfbzixgZA/poona-kheera-cucumbers-jpg.html?pfriendly=1
All these links show how its sold here in usa. So I fish through the piles and try to figure out which to get.
It would help if you showed pictures of ideally how it should look length wise width wise and color.
I assume pune and konkani eat like this? But rarely I see it green or white. mainly gold or brown.
http://150sqft.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/poona-kheera-cucumber-seeds.jpg
http://www.rareseeds.com/poona-kheera-cucumber/?F_Keyword=poona%20
Book link
Re: poona kheera or puneri khira: I just ate this now for second time. I got one ash gourd color smooth fat longer than my hand. and one gold with brown streaks smooth length of my hand.
I'm not sure which I had because skin was peeled but it tasted so bitter and terrible I had to spit it out. It left a horrid after taste I have to rinse my mouth. !  I have to throw it all out.
the flesh had a thick white rind at the end with some seeds like a watermelon rind. It gradiated into a green color toward the center where seeds are.
No one should eat this in this stage!
what happened?
poona kheera or puneri khira : I found someone from india who grew cucumber.
bitterness is due to bad seed or plant stress and if the plant hits a rock or something turns all the cukes bitter and so plant should be taken out.
Its possible another variety got mixed into the bin I took the cucumber from. Or it was immature or overmature.
 
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ID-08092013-PR-3 : Attachments (3). 3 posts by 3 authors.
plants from gujarat
its cultivated
cucurbitaceae
Cucumis sativus I hope
 
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SK1397 31 AUG 2018 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6)- around 500 kb each. 
Location: Chobhar, Kathmandu, Nepal  
Date: 7 August 2018
Elevation: 4500 ft.
Habit : Garden escape ??
Cucumis sativus L. ??

or its wild relative? any fruits ???
I have no idea ... May be related to cucumber since it is found in the roadside wild.




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