Rhodiola imbricata

Rhodiola imbricata Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20: 47 47 1846. (Syn: Sedum imbricatum (Edgew.) Walp.); 
 
 
 
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Rhodiola wallichiana (Hook.) S.H. Fu ... (family: Crassulaceae)
3 AUG 12
Hemakund - Ghangaria trail ... about 13500 ft
Would like to validate this ID.
Since the leaf margin is almost entire, and flowers yellow (orange here), would it be Rhodiola imbricata ?
Have put my query for R. wallichiana at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/LO-C5-CzsL8/ucLfigY1hIEJ ... the leaf there, has irregular dentate margin.
Yes ... I had doubt about this that is why I did not put my yes. Let us us if we have some other proof of its being R. imbricara.
The leaves appear much narrower than expected in the species.


 
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VoF Week: Rhodiola imbricata from way to Hemkund Sahib:
Rhodiola imbricata from way to Hemkund Sahib
pls validate

If any body having good image and taxonomic classification of Rhodiola imbricata (Crassulaceae). Please send the details
Did you try the plant list from Kew botanic garden? Its a good source to get the taxonomic classification of the plant. Kindly check from the link below.
   
 
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Kindly identify this Rhodiola species.
Date: 8th August 2011
Location: Paddar valley district Kishtwar J&K.
Altitude: 4340 meters asl
GPS: 33.31 N and 76.27 E
Plant habit/habitat: Wild herb
Plant height: 1-3 feets
I hope Sedum asiaticum
It may be Rhodiola imbricata Edgew. as per images herein.

 
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SK54JUL27-2016:ID : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
Enclosing some pictures for  identification .
Location : Way  to  Khardung La
Altitude: Around  15-16000  ft.
Date:  24 August 2014
Must be some Sedum/ Rhodiola species (Crassulaceae).
Comaparative images of species in efi at Sedum 
Rhodiola species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 
Rhodiola (most species which were included in the genus Sedum from this region are now in this genus) is a very, very difficult genus identification-wise.
At present, I cannot quickly suggest possible species for a specimen not in flower or fruit but may be a position to do as my familiarity with the genus improves in due course. These plants have not even got fully developed leaves.
IF there is an expert/authority on the genus who can suggest a species, then that would be helpful
It seem to be a species of Rhodiola most probably imbracata species. Though the plant is not in full blooming and at dying stage similarly leaves are also not clearly visible. The common species of Ladakh is R. imbricata syn. R. rosea followed by R. heterodonta. Because it has almost entire leaves so it not surely heterodonta species.
Thank you all! ... : Your opinion please !

 
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SK55JUL27-2016:ID : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
Enclosing some pictures for  identification .
Location : Way to Khardung La
Altitude: Around  15-16000  ft.
Date:  24 August 2014
Thanks, ... Is it not the same as in your another thread ?
Sedum/ Rhodiola (Crassulaceae) species.
Some Crassulaceae member
It looks like two species mixed up in one thread due to oversight.
Comaparative images of species in efi at Sedum 
Rhodiola species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 
This is Rhodiola, but no idea what species.
This plant is belong to Rhodiola again and the species is imbricata. Mostly R. rosea converted in rosy colour at the maturity and its leaves are almost matching with R. imbricata syn R. rosea species. The entire leaves with upper half dentate and plant is smaller in height with rose pink in colour.
Thanks, ..., for id.
I further checked up.
R. imbricata and R. rosea are different with the former being reported in the area as per the following:
It may be Rhodiola imbricata Edgew. as suggested by you and as per images herein and as per the following:
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identification request: Taken at Himachal Pradesh. May 2010.
These are high altitude flowers. These are at 17000 feet.

Sedum...??


Yes Sedum. Could be Sedum asiaticum
Appears to be closer to Rhodiola imbricata as per images herein.
I repeated my statement of just how difficult it is to reliably identify Rhodiolas - even herbarium specimens, let alone general images not close-up or fully in focus. By Sedum asiaticum, I think this means Sedum crassipes syn. R.asiaticum var. wallhichianum now Rhodiola wallichiania... R.imbricata and R.wallichiana are close.  Interestingly, in 'Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal' Ohba gives an altitudinal range of 4500-5500m for R.imbricata; 3300-4200m for R.wallichiana.  This makes R.imbricata more likely but I do not know how to distinguish between the two of them.  The altitudinal ranges in 'Flowers of the Himalaya' are different but still R.imbricata is more likely if it is just a choice between these two but I am uncertain about this. Ohba in the above publication has a key which early on separates the two (and other species in the genus) on the basis of hermaphrodite flowers (R.imbricata) cf. plants dioecious (R.wallichiana) but this is of no use with most photos!

  

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