Valeriana jatamansi


Images by Anurag N Sharma (id by Gurinder Goraya), Alok Mahendroo (id by Amit Chauhan & Gurcharan Singh), Gurcharan Singh, Ashwini Bhatia (validation By Gurinder Goraya) & Narendra Joshi (Id by Amit Chauhan) 

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Perennial herb up to 50 cm tall, with thick horizontal rootstock; basal leaves several, persistent, stalked, ovate-cordate, up to 7 cm long; stem leaves sessile, simple or 3-lobed; flowers white or tinged pink, in terminal corymb; fruit crowned with bearded pappus like calyx limb.


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valeriana jatamansi... id 240210: Here are the photos of what I had put together with Valeriana hardwickii
by mistake. .. for corrections.
.. also suggested this to be V. jatamansi.
Kalatop, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts
herb
wild
height 5 inches
Season: february
-   always say, BEST WAY IS TO TAKE MULTIPLE PICTURES FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES. You never know what you may miss. But still people tend to take picture of relevant parts. I will give you one simple example with orchids.
Orchids have been categorized on the basis of number of pollinia which are concealed in the flower. Even if you take 1000 pictures you you cant count the number of pollinia, unless you take them out and see and this makes our task really tough.
  
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Valeriana confusion al210411b: These are few more photos of valeriana... the Difference in the shape and size of the leaves has confused me... please confirm id...
Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2800mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 10-12 inches
 

Basal leaves cordate, stem nearly simple: Valeriana jatamansi (syn: V. wallichii).


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Plant for ID (28/06/2011 NSJ-03): Plant for Identification
Location - Gulmarg Hill top, Kashmir
Habitat -  Wild
Date May 31, 2011
plant around 2 feet tall

It is
Valariana jatamansi


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Valeriana jatamansi Jones from Nainital: Valeriana jatamansi Jones, Asiat. Res. 2: 405, 416 405 1790.
syn: Valeriana wallichii DC.
Perennial herb up to 50 cm tall, with thick horizontal rootstock; basal leaves several, persistent, stalked, ovate-cordate, up to 7 cm long; stem leaves sessile, simple or 3-lobed; flowers white or tinged pink, in terminal corymb; fruit crowned with bearded pappus like calyx limb.
Photographed from Nainital in April.


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ANSEPT23/23 Valeriana sp. for identification (Churdhar Trip 55) : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (7)  
Family: Caprifoliaceae
Date: May 2015
Place: Churdhar Sanctuary, Himachal Pradesh

Altitude: 2500 metres above sea level

Valeriana species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)  
It is Valeriana jatamansii.


 
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Valeriana sp. ABJUN01/09 : 12 posts by 4 authors. 6 images.
I cannot decide which Valerian this is. I had photographed the decidedly hairier Jatamansi earlier and confirmed the ID on the group. Could this be a variation or is it another species? The leaves are very beautifully symmetrical here. Please advise.
Above Dal Lake, Dharamshala, HP
1900m
26 June 2016
Valeriana species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 
It is Valeriana jatamansi Jones Syn: V. wallichii DC. There is a lot of variability in this species w.r.to sexuality (Male and bisexual ) ,colour /tinge of flowers; morphology of leaves and root stock.
Thank you ... for the detailed explanation. 

I think matches with the images at Valeriana jatamansi
It is a morphotype of Valariana jatamansi Jones earlier known as V wallichii DC.


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valeriana..id al220210: Another flower for id
herb
wild

2100 mts
Chamba

height: 8 inches
could be valeriana...

I think Valeriana hardwickii
There are more than one plant. 1-2 I have doubts about what ... claims especially if leaves are simple (My contention is based on the pic available on FOI, just in case FOI has wrong plant) and last one is Asteraceae.
Perhaps it should be understood that all three species V. pyrolaefolia, V. jatamansii and V. hardwickii have simple basal leaves. In V. pyrolaefolia cauline are also simple, in V. jatamansii cauline 3-fid and in Hardwickii cauline 3-7 pinnatipartite (which can be clearly seen).
Ok, I understood the issue here. Thanks for pointing.
May be these pictures can clear the doubts over V. jatamansi and V. hardwickii. the 1st pic is V. hardwicki and the 2nd one is V. jatamansi. While ... 2 nd picture is clearly V. jatamansi
I think ... has the technical data but...
you are right ... there WERE 2 flowers... BUT... In one of the plants I photographed.. the basal leaves were not clearly seen,..  sooo.. I attached dscn5017a.jpg to show the basal leaves... I'll go there again tomorrow to get photographs of the leaves of both the plants (they could be different valerianas for all I know)
but right now I am attaching more close ups of both the flowers and I'll let you decide this...
To resolve the issue, I think you have to check the original photograph number as you clicked the photographs to know whether these photographs belong to the same plant. Third is clearly V. hardwickii, second could be both V. hardwickii or V. jatamansii as ... suggested.
Second and third photographs are from the same plant/Flower ( dscn5013a.jpg & dscn5015a.jpg). the First one was just for comparison...
In this series of identification there had been two sets of photographs... you were referring to the first set and I was to the second one.. anyhow, in the first set dscn5010a/5017a belong to the same plant (V. hardwickii) and the dscn5018a belonged to the other plant... if you need I can re post the second as a different observation...


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VoF Week: Valeriana sp???? at VoF: 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Seen this small herb with small white flowers at VoF.
Could this be some Valeriana sp.??
Date/Time: 08-08-2012 / 08:45AM

Perhaps Valeriana hardwickii
Leaves would help.
It looks me Valeriana hardwikii but leaves are not clearly visible as this species have pinnate leaves.
I feel these are more closer to the images posted by ... in his post, identified as Valeriana jatamansi

 
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ANNOV26 Please identify this herb : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (6).  
Trekking route to Mussoorie
1st November 2014

Should be a Valeriana sp.
Valeriana species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)
to me yes its Valeriana species and may be Valeriana hardwickii check it
Thank you very much sir.
I think these are more closer to the images at Valeriana jatamansi Jones than those of Valeriana hardwickii Wall. 
  
 
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Locality: On way to Churdhar, Himachal Pradesh
Habit: Herb, upto 30 cms high.
Habitat: Along the hill slopes
Date: August 2010

Perhaps Valeriana wallichii

Yes, appear closer to closer to the images at Valeriana jatamansi Jones (syn. Valeriana wallichii) as per images herein.


 
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Valeriana jatamansii Jones, ??? : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Location: Nagarkot , Nepal
Altitude:  6400 ft.
Date: 2 March 2014

I think matches with images at Valeriana jatamansi


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Valeriana jatamansi Jones : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Location Godawari Botanical Garden, Nepal
Elevation :  5000 ft.
Date : 15 January 2014
Habit : Cultivated
Nepali Names : सुगन्धवाल Sugandhawaal  / समायो Samaayo 


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for identification mm1 23072018 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)  
I would very much appreciate an identification.
we saw this near the village of Makku, Uttarakhand at an altitude of about 6,500 feet. it was growing in a ravine in the first week of may 2018

Herb having white inflorescence is Valeriana jatamansi.


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Valeriana jatamansi flower structure ABMAR2019/01 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (5)
Valeriana jatamansi
March 2019,
Mcleodganj and above, Dharamshala, HP.
I have been looking at the flowers of our valerians here. In much of the literature on the species V. jatamansi, it is mentioned that the male and female flowers are found on different plants. I decided to have a closer look at the flowers and found the following:
There are two kinds of flowers on different plants, one larger than the other. 
The smaller flowers are barely 3mm across with a style (with a trifid stigma) projecting well beyond the corolla tube. Inside the tube are three stamens whose anthers are below the neck of the corolla tube. Unless the stamens are sterile, the flower is hermaphrodite and not a female flower even though only style is visible.
The larger, almost twice the size, has three stamens projecting out with white anthers and one hair-like style which seems to grow longer after the stamens drop their anthers. That stigma too becomes trifid later. Here again, unless the stigma is sterile, the flower is hermaphrodite. 
It can very well be that the stamens of the smaller and stigma of the larger are sterile and flowers are dominantly male and female. Otherwise they are merely pin and thrum type.
Please advise.
Thanks, ..., for the wonderful insight.
Thank you ... I am hoping this observation is validated/refuted by a senior member soon.
Following this observation I thought it would be important to see if the 'male' plants seed (proving they are not male but hermaphrodite). I found both the larger and the smaller varieties seeding. Am I correct in deducing that both flowers intact are hermaphrodites and in our populations there are no separate male and female flowers? Please advise.
Valeriana jatamansi
Photos shot on April 8, 2019
1800m
Dal Lake, Dharamshala, HP
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Valeriana jatamansi/ABFEB06 : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3)
And this on our mountain slopes next to the violets (even the leaf shape is similar). Please correct me if I am wrong.
Jatamansi (Valeriana jatamansi)– Please confirm.
16 Feb. 2015
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala
1750m
Excellent pics.... It sure is Valeriana jatamansi. Aromatic rhizomes/ roots of this species are traded under the names Nihani/ Mushkbala/ Tagar, etc. in different markets. 
Thanks ... for sharing the flower pics..
This was in vegetative phase, when we saw this together..
yes, love the flowers
Thank you ... I do remember seeing it together but thought I will confirm it with the flowers.


 
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Valeriana jatamansi Jones ex Roxb. : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (8)- around 700 kb each. 
Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
Altitude: 2474 m.
Date: 8 May 2019
Habit : Wild
ID validation please !
Yes. Valeriana jatamansi Jones as per comparative images at Valeriana


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SK1913 13 May 2019 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (10)- around 650 kb each. 
Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
Altitude: 2391 m.
Date: 8 May 2019
Habit : Wild 
Valeriana jatamansi Jones ex Roxb.
Does the leaf belong to the same sp. ?
Got confused.
No leaves are of some other plant as per Valeriana jatamansi Jones 

Thank you ...! Sp. ID is correct ?
Appears so as per Valeriana jatamansi Jones



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