Campanula pallida ?;
Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week : Campanula Species for ID : Kodaikanal : AK-1: Pictures taken on 24th & 25th Oct,2008 in Kodaikanal. Had posted these on our group earlier and they were identified as Campanula. Correct id please. It could be Campanula ramulosa Wall., from Nilgiri and Kodaikanal hills at 2000 - 2300 m alt. Here the height of the plant is important. C. ramulosa is usually 6 - 10 cm tall only. The photographs do not indicate any idea about the height of the plant. Plants were not as short as 6 - 10 cm only, not very tall either. About a feet tall. Campanulaceae and Gentianaceae Fortnight: July 1 to 14, 2014 : Campanula For ID : Kodaikanal : 020714 : AK-1 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2). Campanula flowers seen in Kodai in Oct,08. Cultivated, garden plant. Had posted on our group earlier. Campanula trachelium? Some earlier relevant feedback from another thread: “It could be Campanula ramulosa Wall., from Nilgiri and Kodaikanal hills at 2000 - 2300 m alt. Here the height of the plant is important. C. ramulosa is usually 6 - 10 cm tall only. The photographs do not indicate any idea about the height of the plant.” “Plants were not as short as 6 - 10 cm only, not very tall either. About a feet tall.” from ... Campanula ramulosa Wall. is asyn. of Campanula pallida Posting photo for Id of this flower Date / Time – 06.10.2009 Location – Chakrata Habitat – Wild In my view it is Campanula palida. I checked few images of Campanula palida on web. Looks very similar, but the stalk of the posted flower is very peculiar -sort of emerging from ovary and the calyx in Campanula palida is very conspicuous unlike in the posted image. Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanula for ID from Himachal : GSG-02 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1). Kindly help in identification of the species... May be Campanula canna Is it Campanula palida ? Campanula cana Wall. in Roxb., Fl. Ind. 2: 101. 1824. There has been a long discussion on this plant when ... uploaded his plant, which we now agree to be Campanula pallida var. pallida. The photographs uploaded by me here after comparing several others appear Campanula cana (and not C. pallida as depicted on FOI) more firmly because. 1. The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine: 2. The plant, leaves, calyx are softly hairy and giving whitish hue to these parts, and not bristly. 3. calyx lobes nearly linear to subulate, not triangular and not toothed, more or less spreading. 4. Corolla lobes almost as long as tube and somewhat spreading. 5. style slightly exserted (and not included as in C. pallida) and clearly 3-lobed stigma. The flower colour does look lighter than in description, but it matches with eFl of China photographs. There has been inconclusive discussion on this plant when uploaded earlier. Hope it is resolved this time It is a frequent species in temperate Uttarakhand. Hope the expert of Campanulaceae will resolve the ID this time. Can be Campanula colorata? C. colorata is old name for C. pallida I have already explained why it can't be C. pallida Fwd: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1) Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my understanding of that species. Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in Campanulaceae for Pakistan. Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of the Rohtang Pass. He initially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen this species in Kashmir, it was clear to me that they did not match. I have some images of this in cultivation which I plan to post at some point. After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper Kulu Valley was C.cana - even though it had not been recorded previously West of what was Kumaon. There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in the Himalaya. Flora Simlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a synonym of C.benthamii) and C.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of C.pallida. See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814540 for a herbarium specimen at Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see differences with the specimens named C.cana on eFI. See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00275060.zip&queryRow=3 for a high resolution image which one can zoom into. However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well with my understanding of this species -nor do some of the images available on the internet. All this requires further study. Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting evidence for my thinking. Thanks, ... Pl. the following links on Flora of China for Campanula cana: I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen for which you have given the links. I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana does NOT tally/match with the images you have provided links to. I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but occasionally the same type of images from China of species I am familiar with from the borderlands of W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is for other species belonging to different genera). I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan in (which was published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of what I consider is Campanula cana in cultivation. This I can then post. Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of revision in the Himalaya (and bordering regions). IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to a different taxon to the plant illustrated in the links you provided. |
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