Cirsium wallichii

 
Common name: Wallich's Thistle • Hindi: Bungsee • Nepali: थकाल Thakal, kanta

Similar to Cirsium verutum but having yellow to white heads, and inner involucre bracts with dilated tips. 
 
Thistle plant easily differentiated by white or pale pink flower heads in which tips of inner involucre bracts are not spiny, rather dilated; also spines are confined to margins of leaf at ends of lobes and not on its surface. Taller plant often reaching 2.5 m in height; leaves irregularly pinnately lobed, sessile, usually cottony on lower surface, tips of lobes with strong long spines; heads 2-4 cm across, solitary or clustered, white or pale pink; outer involucre bracts lanceolate ending in rigid spreading spines, inner with dilated tips.    
 


Images by  Aarti S Khale (Id by Gurcharan Singh)
Thistle for ID : Kashmir : 091011 : AK-3:  Also taken at Gulmarg, Kashmir on the 11th of Sept,11.
Shrubs growing along the roadside. 


Images by Gurcharan Singh (Inserted by J.M.Garg) (For more photos & complete details, click on the links)

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads- Cirsium wallichii from Kashmir-GS34 : Attachments (4).
1 post by 1 author.
Cirsium wallichii DC.
syn: Cnicus wallichii (DC.) C B Clarke
Similar to Cirsium verutum but having yellow to white heads, and inner involucre bracts with dilated tips.  
Photographed from Kashmir.
 

Chitra Shanker (Id by Gurcharan Singh) 

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PLant for ID 17072013 CS1 : Attachments (3). 3 posts by 3 authors.
Please help in identification of this compositae weed from Srinagar
Cirsium wallichii
 
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Cirsium wallichii DC. from Kashmir:  Cirsium wallichii DC., ; Prodr. 6: 643, 1838
Syn: Cnicus wallichii (DC.) C. B. Clarke; Cirsium nepalense DC.
Thistle plant easily differentiated by white or pale pink flower heads in which tips of inner involucre bracts are not spiny, rather dilated; also spines are confined to margins of leaf at ends of lobes and not on its surface. Taller plant often reaching 2.5 m in height; leaves irregularly pinnately lobed, sessile, usually cottony on lower surface, tips of lobes with strong long spines; heads 2-4 cm across, solitary or clustered, white or pale pink; outer involucre bracts lanceolate ending in rigid spreading spines, inner with dilated tips.  
Common in wastelands and roadsides. Photographed from Narbal, along Srinagar Gulmarg Road. 
 

Images by N Arun (Id by Gurcharan Singh)  

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AKOCT29 Is this Cirsium falconeri ? : 2 posts by 2 authors. 3 images.
Location: Khajjiar, Himachal Pradesh 
Heads are too small for C. falconeri. I should be C. wallichii, notice broadened tips of involucre bracts
 
 
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HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Asteraceae :: ARKDEC-12 : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3) 
Requesting to please provide ID of this Asteraceae member captured near Manali, HP in October 2014.
Cirsium wallichii
thanks ... but would not you too like to see the lower leaves and their surface ?
It is Cnicus argyracanthus.
Thank you ... for the feedback...
As per the plant list, Cnicus argyracanthus (var. nepalensis) as suggested by ... is a syn. of Cirsium wallichii.
 
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Cirsium wallichii ABJUNE2017/01 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (8)
I photographed some plants of this thistle this morning and am sharing these with you. Please correct me if I am wrongly identifying the plant.
Cirsium wallichii
Dal Lake, Dharamshala, HP
1850m
08 June 2017.
You are right ... Very nice images...!!
Superb images with great details. 


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Unid. plant : Attachments (2).  3 posts by 2 authors.
please identify this plant from Uttarakhand.
Cirsium wallichii I hope 
  

 
 
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Thistle for ID : Kashmir : 091011 : AK-1: Picture taken at Patni Top, Udhampur, Kashmir on the 5th of Sept, 11.
Shrubs growing on the mountain slope.
Could this be Cnicus wallichii....or Wallich'sThistle?  
 
 
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Here i am attaching an image of Interaction
Symbiosis - West Himalayan Common Windmill Butterfly (Byasa polyeuctes letincius) on Cirsium wallichii flower.
Photographed at Kullu District, Himachal Pradesh
Dated - 29June2018

Is there some book which can give details/identification about plant species in Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, Ladakh, Nepal, Kashmir?
Wanted to know about angiosperms of all these regions.
May be something like Jungle trees of Central India.

I do not think there is any such book. Mostly there are local floras without many images.
However, ... will guide us better. 

 

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