Cirsium verutum

 
Common Thistle • Nepali: थकाल Thakal, Sungure kanda;
 
The plant (Cirsium verutum) is differentiated from related species C. wallichii by its usually purplish flowers (though white ones should also be expected if we follow FBI and Collett), outer as well as inner involucre bracts ending in spines longer than 5 mm.  


 
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Thistle for ID : Kashmir : 091011 : AK-2:  Taken at Gulmarg, Kashmir on the 11th of Sept,11.
Again shrubs frowing along the roadside. 

Cirsium verutum (syn: C. acanthifolius)


 
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Thistle For ID : Uttarakhand : 160413 : AK-2 : Attachments (3 + 3).  6 posts by 2 authors. 
Thistle seen growing wild along the roadside, on way to Nainital on 23/3/13.
Please help in id.
Cirsium for sure, if at altitudes below Nainital it would be C. wallichii if heads are white and and involucre bracts broader at tip, C. verutum if heads are purple-pin and bracts with spiny tips. 
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I could find some more pictures taken near the Bhimtal lake. Hope it helps.
One of the picture shows an open flower.
Cirsium verutum I hope
 
 
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Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Spreng (=Cnicus verutus D.Don) is a common thistle in alpine and temperate Himalaya and its gregarious presence in any area usually indicate overgrazing.
Here photographed in Naini Tal, Uttarakhand.
Quite common ... in most places in W. Himalayas.


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Cirsium verutum (D. Don) Spreng.
Syn: Cnicus argyracanthus (DC) C B Clarke; Cnicus involucratus DC.
The plant is differentiated from related species C. wallichii by its usually purplish flowers (though white ones should also be expected if we follow FBI and Collett), outer as well as inner involucre bracts ending in spines longer than 5 mm. 
Photographed from Kashmir, Bhimtal and Ranikhet. 


 
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Asteraceae for Id : Attachments (1).  3 posts by 2 authors.
plz id this Asteraceae plant
it is a spiny herb
found on Chopta road
Pic taken May 2013
Cirsium verutum. Nice photograph

 
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SK798 14 OCT-2017:ID : 8 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (7)
Location :  Tatopani, Pokhara, Nepal 
Date : 12 April  2017
Elevation : 5000 ft.
Cirsium ... ??

Pl check for Cirsium arvense. In the absence of flowers/ fruits Id cannot be confirmed.

Confusing !   

Also check comparative images at 



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SK1973 05 June 2019 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)- around 750 kb each. 
Location: Chandragiri, Kathmandu, Nepal
Altitude: 2456 m.
Date: 27 May 2019
Habit : Wild

I think close to images at Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Spreng. as per comparative images and details at Cirsium 

Thank you ...!
Nepali Names : ढाडे काँडा Dhaade Kaandaa / सुङ्गुरे काँडा Sunggure Kaandaa / थकाल Thakaal 



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