Cirsium falconeri ?

 

Images by Dinesh Valke (Id by Gurcharan Singh), Sayed Nudrat Zawar, & Prashant Awale (Both Ids by Gurcharan Singh) (Inserted by J.M.Garg) (For more photos & complete details, click on the links)

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SIR-see-um -- Greek kirsion (kind of thistle) ... Dave's Botanary
fal-KON-er-ee -- named for Hugh Falconer, Scottish doctor, geologist and botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary

commonly known as: Falconer's thistle • Nepali: गिद्ध प्वांखे giddh pwankhe

Native to: Himalaya (Kashmir to Bhutan), Myanmar, s Tibet
 
The whole plant is covered with whitish spines, even on upper surface of leaves. The heads are very large, cream coloured and nodding, Involucre bracts are woolly and with long pale spines.  
 
 
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Habitat: sloping meadow
Habit: erect herb about 1 - 2 m, stems and leaves - heavily armed
... missed flowering period
Cirsium falconeri I hope
Very common at high altitudes in Western Himalayas.
I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.
Sorry, I have doubts about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.
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VOF Week: Cirsium sp. at Auli: Seen this Cirsium sp. (Family: Asteraceae) at Auli. Could this be Cirsium falconeri??.
Yes Cirsium falconeri, typical alpine species.
I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.
Not sure about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.

 
Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. 
SIR-see-um -- Greek kirsion (kind of thistle) ... Dave's Botanary
fal-KON-er-ee -- named for Hugh Falconer, Scottish doctor, geologist and botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary
commonly known as: Falconer's thistle • Nepali: गिद्ध प्वांखे giddh pwankhe
Native to: Himalaya (Kashmir to Bhutan), Myanmar, s Tibet
References: Flowers of IndiaAnnotated Checklist of the Flowering Plants of Nepal
at Auli on 31 JUL 12
Yes ... Very good upload.
I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.
Sorry, I have doubts about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.
 
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Circium wallichii from Manali : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Uploading Circium wallichii from Manali. Differes from C. falconeri in upper surface of leaves without spines, smaller heads and dilated inner involucre bracts without spines.
Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr.  as per other threads by Gurcharan Singh ji
I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.
Sorry, I have doubts about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.
 

Cirsium falconeri (Family: Asteraceae) at Auli. 
Yes ... Very good photographs.
Seems to be a repeat posting - see my previous comments. 

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Here are the pics recorded from Chakrata region and from VOF tour. I hope they belong to Cirisium falconeri.... please validate/correct..
efi page on Cirsium falconeri
 
 
 
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