Gynura amplexicaulis or Gynura cusimbua ?

 
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PLANT FOR ID 169 SMP NOV 2009 : 10 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (1)
Again from Mahabaleshwar Nov 09............ Appears to be commonly observed but often neglected from ID point of view.
A guess, Sonchus arvensis
Earlier guessed by me to be Sonchus arvensis, but leaves have a different texture.
I think this belongs to genus Gynura....
This looks like Gynura sp. (Asteraceae Family).
Yes ... Try to fit in G. angulosa now correctly known as G. cusimbua
Or can it be Gynura amplexicaulis, a new record for India (recently published) ?
Do anyone know the difference between Gynura amplexicaulis & Gynura cusimbua ?
 
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It appears to be Gynura bicolor.
Kindly see the link below
http://www.indianaturewatch.net/displayimage.php?id=109007
I think it matches with Gynura cusimbua (D. Don) S. Moore (syn. Gynura angulosa Candolle) as per http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121445&flora_id=2

Or can it be Gynura amplexicaulis, a new record for India (recently published) ?
Do anyone know the difference between Gynura amplexicaulis & Gynura cusimbua ?
 
 
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Kusumbi (Gynura bicolor) : 9 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (3)Place: Kass Plateau, Approx. 25 kms north of Satara, Maharashtra.
Location of this (image) flower / plant: on roadside slope amongst stones .....found only at one spot in 4 visits in Aug-Sep on the plateau.
Date: 5th Oct, 2008
Equipment: Canon 40 D Camera + Tamron 90 mm macro lens
Family: Asteraceae
Species: Gynura bicolor ..... =G.angulosa
Local name (Marathi) : Kusumbi
Notes: Stout succulent herb, 1-2 cm high. Stem 1 cm thick, angular, branched at top.Leaves alternate, 10-20 cm. Flowers 2 cm, deep orange.
(Source: Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar : Page 155 )
I think it matches with Gynura cusimbua (D. Don) S. Moore (syn. Gynura angulosa Candolle) http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121445&flora_id=2
Or can it be Gynura amplexicaulis, a new record for India (recently published) ?
Do anyone know the difference between Gynura amplexicaulis & Gynura cusimbua ?






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