Aster thomsonii


Aster
thomsonii C.B.Clarke, 48 1876. (Syn: Aster flexuosus (Royle ex DC.) Kuntze [Illegitimate]; Kalimeris flexuosa Royle ex DC. (Unresolved));

Images by Nidhan Singh (Validated by Gurcharan Singh), Alok Mahendroo (Id by Tabish & Gurcharan Singh), Gurcharan Singh & D S Rawat (Inserted by J.M.Garg) (For more photos & complete details, click on the links)

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Perennial herb up to 90 cm tall, rough hairy, branched; leaves ovate to elliptic 5-10 cm long, coarsely toothed, clasping at base; heads solitary at ends of branches, 4-5 cm across, with purple spreading ray florets up to 2 cm long; involucre bracts linear-lanceolate, hairy, leafy; achene hairy, longer than pappus.  
 


 
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Chamba heights al190811a ... id please..: this looked like the Daisies we find towards Kalatope except the leaves are very different .. 
Location Chamba
Altitude 3500 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 18-20 inches

It is clearly Aster, but to identify the species we should have some details. Diameter of head/flower is the minimum we expect to do that.
This could be Aster thomsonii, found at altitudes of 2100-3000 m.
Yes sessile almost clasping leaves do suggest Aster thomsoni
 
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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 1-Radiate heads: Aster thomsoni from Chakrata- GS28 :  Attachments (3).  1 post by 1 author.
Aster thomsoni Clarke
Perennial herb up to 90 cm tall, rough hairy, branched; leaves ovate to elliptic 5-10 cm long, coarsely toothed, clasping at base; heads solitary at ends of branches, 4-5 cm across, with purple spreading ray florets up to 2 cm long; involucre bracts linear-lanceolate, hairy, leafy; achene hairy, longer than pappus.
Photographed from Chakrata. 

ASTERACEAE Fortnight Part-I Radiate Heads May 1-14: Aster thomsonii from Uttarakhand_DSR_14 : Attachments (1). 1 post by 1 author.
Aster thomsonii C.B.Clarke is a temperate Aster in shady areas of Western Himalaya.
Here photographed on way to Kedarnath, Uttarakhand.
 
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Please validate if this one is Aster thomsonii... shot from Chakrata area..
I think yes
 
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Aster thomsonii ABSEP2016/37 : 3 posts by 2 authors. 4 images.
After finding a couple of plants at 2450m I was hoping to find more higher up but to my surprise I didn't encounter a single flowering plant. Either these ones are early and the others will flower sometime soon, or there is only a small localised population. Please validate.
I assume the violet-blue flower heads fade into white with age.
Aster thomsonii
Mcleodganj-Triund, HP  2450m approx. 10-11 September 2016
I think matches with images at Aster thomsonii
Some additional photos from Sunday, 9 October. The teeth on the leaves can vary from coarse to none.
3 images.
Yes, these images seem to match Aster thomsonii well. Some Asters are very difficult to name.
The Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya has a photo but there is only a description in the main FOH - they say forests & shrubberies @ 2100-3000m.
According to Collet this was common in woods at Shimla.
Stewart records it from N.Pakistan & Kashmir where it is common in Sind & Lidder Valleys through to Kishtwar @ 2300-3350m, commenting that the leaves are sessile or nearly so.
  
 
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Aster thomsonii AT MAR 2017/23 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Aster thomsonii
Shimla
August 2016
I'll also search for complete plant in my collection add later on.
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Asteraceae for ID ABAUG2017/30 : 10 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (7)
I saw a lone plant among the Rhododendron campanulatum on 28 July and saw more such plants on my two subsequent trips to Ilaqa and beyond. The two-tier ray-florets point to an Erigeron species. These plants were about 40-50cm tall with large individual flowers (5-6cm across) at the end of stems. Please help identify it.
Erigeron sp.?
Snowline and Ilaqa, Dharamshala, HP
3000-3300m
28-29 July, 05, 16-17 August 2017

Pl. try to check comparative images at efi site on genus and subfamily page, if already not done so. 
Thank you ... I did check but didn’t come close to an ID. Erigeron is very likely but it’s a variable genus. 
Also tried comparative images at Astereae but could not find a match.
Thomson's Aster 
Aster thomsonii  

I think it may be Aster spp. found on temperate area.
Should be Aster thomsonii
Thank you ... You are right, my sample is most likely Aster thomsonii. I convinced myself otherwise because the A. thomsonii plants I know from lower altitudes haven't yet flowered and most had a cluster of flowers simultaneously last year (https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/indiantreepix/9CY2C_dYnOo).
Do plants at higher altitude flower first in this species?
Thank you for correcting me.


 

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