Hedera nepalensis


Afghanistan to Thailand as per WCSP;

Afghanistan; Assam; East Himalaya; Myanmar; Nepal; Pakistan; Thailand; West Himalaya as per Catalogue of life;


 
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14.11.10SP9-10  : Date: 14.11.2010
place: Dalhousiae, Chamba district in Himachal Pradesh


 
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ARALIACEAE: Hedera nepalensis K.KochHedera nepalensis K.Koch, Hort. Dendrol.: 284 (1853).
Synonyms:
Hedera helix var. chrysocarpa DC., Prodr. 4: 261 (1830), nom. illeg.
Cissus wallichiana Turcz., Bull. Soc. Imp. Naturalistes Moscou 31(1): 416 (1858).
Hedera helix var. himalaica Hibberd, Fl. World 7: 57 (1864).
Hedera helix var. cinerea Hibberd, Ivy: 71 (1872).
Hedera himalaica (Hibberd) Carrière, Rev. Hort. 62: 164 (1890).
Hedera cinerea (Hibberd) Bean, Trees & Shrubs Brit. Isles: 608 (1912).
Hedera himalaica Tobler, Hedera: 67 (1912), nom. illeg.
Distribution: Afghanistan to Thailand
Current picture taken at Binoj WLSat aroudn 1600m asl in Uttarakhand.

Good Vine!! is it dangerous for walls?
Actually not for walls, but for the layer of cement on the outer wall.
If you have bricks then its good or it will fall of with cement one day :p
This pic was taken in wild.
Thanks ... I have seen this on walls also

I had recently seen this climber at "Dajigham Forest" Srinagar, will post seperately.
flowers of india has pictures by ... from assam.. so was that eastern end of himalyas, in wild or planted?
this is from the western side.
There was a good discussion on its identity when ... uploaded this on Flowers of India. Luckily I had seen both Hedera helix (in USA) and Hedera nepalensis (in Kashmir, Simla, Manali, etc.) and we could fix it.

Yes I have seen this plant develop fruits in Uttarakhand. I should have pics some where. I will check and add.


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Climber for ID : Srinagar : 301011 : AK-3: A third one, probably again an Ivy Creeper taken at Srinagar on the 12th of Sept,11.
 
 
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Hedera nepalensis from way to Chadvic Fall Shimla
Pls validate
Beautiful close up of this temperate climber.
Most of the pictures of Hedera nepalensis (Araliaceae) on net show the leaves as lobed ones. Any comments??
Yes ... Leaf shapes are variable
 
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HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - climber :: ARKNOV-72 :  3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
Requesting to please provide ID of this climber captured near Hadimba temple, Manali, HP in October 2014. I think it was a climber but I am not entirely sure.
It is Hedera nepalensis Syn: H.helix.
Thank you ... for the ID...
I also found some pics I clicked in the premises of an old church (St. John's) in Mcleodganj which also seems to me H. nepalensis. They depict the climbing nature.
Attaching them herewith.
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Hedera nepalensis ABJAN01/04 : 3 posts by 2 authors. 8 images.
Hedera nepalensis—Himnalayan Ivy
1750-1800m
Mcleodganj and above,  Dharamshala, HP
09 January 2016 and February 2015.
I have been observing various leaf shapes of this very hardy ivy for a while now. Today I decided to collect a few samples and photographed them side by side to show the amazing variation in leaf shapes. Col. Collett says that ‘those [leaves] of the barren stems are usually more deeply lobed than of flowering shoots’. That may be correct but I haven’t made enough observations to confirm that.
I collected all my samples from vines on deodars and though I saw a couple of oaks and a rhododendron with coils on them. Of the two-dozen specimens checked, twenty were on deodars. I am not sure if this ivy has a preference for deodars. The ivy is not parasitic and does no harm to the host tree deriving nutrients from sun and soil.
Though the plant is toxic and most parts poisonous, its medicinal value is recorded in native medicine in curing diabetics and recently cancer. I saw two papers by academics in Pakistan who have done chemical analysis and concluded that the plant contains caffeic acid and catechin, which between them have good anti-oxidant and chemo-preventive properties. Both papers advised more research to use this plant in modern medicine.
I have spotted our langoors (Kashmir Grey Langoor) feeding on the leaves of this ivy and assume that they digest it without much harm.
keen observation
 
This set was lacking flower photos and I got them today. They were high up and I could not use my macro for a detailed shot. 2 images.


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SK320JAN13-2017:ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)
Location: Godawari, Nepal
Altitude: 5000 ft.
Date: 10 January 2017
Hedera nepalensis
 
 
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SK291JAN01-2016:ID : 11 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3)
Location: Godawari Botanical Garden, Nepal
Altitude:  5000 ft.
Date: 21 February 2015 
Fruits resemble those of ivy...
It is not a climber/ Creeper.
Yes, it is Hedera nepalensis K.Koch.
Thank you for the ID. 
According to 'Flora of Kathmandu Valley' this ivy commonly occurs in shady oak forest, attaching the tree trunk. The give the local name as 'Pipal pate'. Collected from 1350-2500m. The fruits are small berries, globose, orange-yellow (presumably when mature).  Flowering Nov-Dec.  Fruiting April,  This fits reasonably with the immature fruits photographed above towards the end of February.
Interestingly, Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' listed the ivy found at Shimla to be Hedera helix i.e. the species found in Britain.  He described the fruit as black or yellow, sometimes red. Flowers of the Himalaya say that Hedera nepalensis occurs @ 1800-3000m from Afghanistan to SW China.  They describe the fruits as shining yellow, then black.
I have seen ivy at Manali and wonder how well this fits within H.nepalensis? Could there be more than one species in the Himalaya? Could the 'British' Hedera helix have been cultivated and then escaped? I note there are British oaks which have been cultivated in Manali....  Might be useful if I post some images of H.helix I have taken in the UK for comparison purposes.
Stewart found Hedera nepalensis to be very common climbing cliffs or large trees @ 1500-2400m in Kashmir. I barely noticed it in Kashmir but spent little time at such low elevations.
I note that a photo posted on eFI and names as H.helix is certainly a cultivated ivy, though whether H.helix, I would need to check, so definitely makes sense post my images of 'wild' Hedera helix from the UK, even though this plant is not a native of the Himalaya.
As I have mentioned before during the 'British' days, many plants in the NW Himalaya were 'assumed' to be the 'same' as British species but have been shown to be separate species.  Hedera nepalensis is an example.


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Hedera nepalensis K.Koch . ?? : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)
Location: Pharping, Nepal
Date: 26 April 2018
Altitude: 4800 ft.
Habit : Wild
Nepali Names : दुधेला Dudhelaa / गुही Guhee / पिपल पाते Pipal Paate / काठे लहरो  Kaathe Laharo 

To me also appear close to images at Hedera nepalensis K.Koch  
  

Hedera nepalensis 

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ID request-21102010-PKA3 - efloraofindia | Google Groups : (mixed thread); 4 images.
This is a tree from Manali.
Date/Time: 25-09-2010 / 05:25PM
Location: Manali
Plant Habit:  Tree

Looks like Hedera helix, a climber. 
Hedera nepalensis
This should be a climber on a tree.
We also found the same or similar woody climber in Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand, at altitudes of about 2500 m. Since we found it growing absolutely wild, I presume it to be the native species Hedera nepalensis. We found the leaves to be leathery, which agree with H. nepalensis. I was trying to find something to distinguish it from Hedera helix which is an alien invasive species, and could have become naturalized here.
In pictures of Hedera helix, like the following:
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0909+1829
the leaves don't appear to be leathery. The description at PIERS does not mention that the leaves are leathery, so I guess they are not
http://www.hear.org/pier/species/hedera_helix.htm
Thus I conclude my species to be Hedera nepalensis. Please validate.
About ... plant, I feel it should be Hedera nepalensis, although from the pictures I don't know how to rule out H. helix.
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Hedera nepalensis- juvenile leaves  

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Hedera helix- juvenile leaves

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The Himalayan Ivy H. nepalensis is different from European Ivy H. helix in first presence of scaly pubescence (and not stellate), fruit golden yellow (not black).
Also the juvenile leaves of H.helix are broader and regularly 5 lobed, whereas in H. nepalensis the juvenile leaves are narrower and with two to five small lobes on each side, also the leaves are greyish between the lateral veins..
Attaching the leaves of both species. H. helix grows just outside my door here.
Thanks for the information on the difference between the two species. Unfortunately our present situation is not helped by it, as ... and us, both have photographed only unlobed leaves, no fruits and the nature of pubescence can't be distinguished from our pics. 

Hedera helix 

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I think the following photographs of flowering shoots should help. The leaves in flowering shoots in H. helix are almost as broad as long, and flowers are greenish yellow. In H. nepalensis the leaves are much longer than broad (as seen in your and Prashant ji's both sets) and flowers golden yellow (clearly seen in ...plant).
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Hedera nepalensis/ABJAN05 : 1 post by 1 author.
As ... pointed out, this vine is quite common here. I realised that I hadn't shared this with the group.
Himalayan Ivy (Hedera nepalensis)
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
7 January 2015
 
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Hedera nepalensis/ABFEB13 : 2 posts by 2 authors.  
This is how this ivy is looking now with ripe orange fruit.
Himalayan Ivy (Hedera nepalensis)
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
14 February 2015 
 
 
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Another creeper/ABMAR01 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
I have long confused this with the Hedera nepalensis which has such variation in leaf shapes on the same string. But I think I have been wrong. I photographed this one on the ground but have specimens on trees too. Please advise.
Unidentified
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1750m
03 March 2015
Not sure why you are doubting your ID. It is without doubt Hedera.
Thank you ... for the confirmation.
 
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Hedera nepalensis K.Koch : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)- around 750 kb each. 
Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
Altitude: 2327 m.
Date: 8 May 2019
Habit : Wild 

may be a variant?
H. nepalensis and H. sinensis are listed in Nepal. 
  
 
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Hedera nepalensis K.Koch : 2 posts by 1 author. Attachments (1)- 6 mb.
Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
Altitude: 1690 m.
Date: 14 September 2019
Habit : Wild

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