Plumeria obtusa

Plumeria obtusa L., Sp. Pl. 210 1753. (Syn: Plumeria clusioides var. parviflora (Griseb.) M. Gómez; Plumeria emarginata var. sericifolia (C. Wright ex Griseb.) M. Gómez; Plumeria obtusa var. laevis Griseb.; Plumeria obtusa var. parviflora Griseb.;            Plumeria apiculata Urb.; Plumeria bahamensis Urb.; Plumeria barahonensis Urb.; Plumeria beatensis Urb.; Plumeria bicolor Seem.; Plumeria cayensis Urb.; Plumeria clusioides Griseb.; Plumeria confusa Britton; Plumeria cubensis Urb.; Plumeria cuneifolia Helwig; Plumeria dictyophylla Urb.; Plumeria ekmanii Urb.; Plumeria emarginata Griseb.; Plumeria estrellensis Urb.; Plumeria inaguensis Britton; Plumeria jamaicensis Britton [Illegitimate]; Plumeria krugii Urb.; Plumeria marchii Urb.; Plumeria montana Britton & P.Wilson; Plumeria nipensis Britton; Plumeria nivea Mill.; Plumeria ostenfeldii Urb.; Plumeria parvifolia Donn; Plumeria portoricensis Urb.; Plumeria tenorei Gazparr.; Plumeria venosa Britton; Plumeria versicolor Dehnh.); 

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Aztec: cacalloxochitl (meaning - crow flower) • Bengali: kathgolop • Canary Islands: flor de cebo (meaning - bait flower) • Chinese: kang nai xin, hong ji dan hua • Chuukese: seur • El Salvador: flor de mayo • English: dead man's fingers (Australia), flower of the cross, frangipani, graveyard tree (Caribbean Islands), Mary's flower, may flower (Nicaragua), pagoda tree (Far East), plumeria, temple tree (India), West Indian jasmine • French: frangipanier • Guatemala: flor de la cruz • Hawaii: melia, pumeli • Hindi: चम्पा champa, गुलाचिन golachin, गुलैन्ची golenchi • Indonesia: kembang kamboja, jepun (Bali) • Italian: pomelia, frangipane • Konkani: चाम्पॅ champe • Kosraen: for • Laos: Champa • Laos: dok champa • Malaysia: kemboja kuning • Manipuri: khageleihao angouba • Marathi: चाफा chafa • Mexico: nahuatl • Nicaragua: flor de leche (meaning - milk flower), nicaragua (country's own name), sacuanjoche (P. alba) • Palauan: chelilai • Philippines: kalachuchi • Pohnpeian: pwohmaria • Portuguese: flor-de-Santo-Antônio, jasmim-de-caiena (Brazil), jasmin-do-pará (Brazil), jasmin-manga (Brazil) • Puerto Rico: alelí • Sinhalese: araliya, pansal mal (meaning - temple flower) • Spanish: alhelí cimarrón, suche • St. Barths: bois couleuvre (meaning - snake tree) • Tahiti: tipanier • Tamil: நெல ஸம்பங்கி nela sampangi • Thai: lilawadee • Venezuela: amapola • Yapese: suwur
 

Plumeria obtusa is a species of the genus Plumeria (Apocynaceae), native to Central America,[2] but widely cultivated for its ornamental and fragrant flowers around the world, where suitably warm climate exists.[3]  
The large shrub grows from 5-10m tall (c.12–25 ft)[3][4]  
P. obtusa is native to the Greater Antilles, northern Central America and southern Mexico.[2] Cultivation is common in warmer parts of the world, including Southeast Asia  
This plant is commonly used as an ornamental, grown for its flowers. In Cambodia the flowers are used to make necklaces and in offerings to the deities.[3] In traditional medicine used in that country, a decoction of the bark is given in varying doses as a purgative or as a remedy against oedemas. 
(From Wikipedia on 29.7.13) 
 
 
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In Delhi on 4/4/08; at the Red Fort Garden, New Delhi- June'10?; Mumbai- Nov'10?; Trees of Delhi- Flowers in April, peaking in May & again in the rains. White Frangipani- Khair Champa/Safed Champa (Plumeria obtusa) - indiantreepix | Google Groups Flowering trees in delhi--Two plumerias - indiantreepix | Google Groups

 
 
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Pagoda tree : Attachments (1). 10 posts by 8 authors. 
Sending a picture of Pogoda tree shot at the Red Fort Garden, New Delhi.
this is plumeria alba.
Pagoda tree is Styphnolobium japonicum and I feel this is not the tree!
As ... said it Plumeria alba
I also agree with ... It is indeed Plumera alba
Looks like Plumeria rubra Linn. (Pagoda tree ) to me. According to Trees of Mumbai book the crooked trunk with blunt and swollen  branches matches with the pics. The flowers are upright clustered from the tip of the branches.
Plumeria -Frangipani is also known temple tree or Pagoda tree as in South East Asia they are planted around Pagodas. But I am not sure if all varieties of Plumeria are known as Pagoda tree or some particular one.
My earlier input was based on the book 'Trees of Mumbai' which has mentioned  the description of the flowers as "The funnel shaped flower is large, reddish white or fully waxy white with a golden centre."
In Trees in Delhi there is lot of  info. on Plumeria species . It is mentioned that there are 2 species of Plumeria in Delhi - Plumeria rubra there are four forms and within Plumeria obtusa there are two forms. Please refer to Pg 134 .   
I think this could be Plumeria obtusa!! Leaf apex seems to be obtuse..... 
Plumeria obtusa from my side too.
 
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ID Requested_28122010_DS_SN2:The tree found in Murshidabad Hazarduari ground, West Bengal.
Time: Dec. 2010
Only one flower left. 

Date/Time-Oct 2011
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Garden
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Shrub
Height/Length- 3 feet
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-green
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- white flower
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-Not seen

 
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Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Garden
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Shrub
Height/Length- 6-7 feet
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-green
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- white
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-Not seen 

plumeria obtusa
One query are there many varieties of this same flower because the flowers petals in the two posts that I posted today look different 
... its just not the flower petal... if you look closely... the leaves often are different ...there is a
variablility inherent  in the plumerias... keep looking...  we have several of these along my daily walk...   all have a just a tad bit different leaves or petals or even flower scent...  that 's what make the walk so interesting... it just like the case of many of the sarcomas.... where there is marked variability in the cells... if you keep looking at soft tissue tumors... yet they are all sarcomas... and here they are all plumeria obtusa...
it boils down to experience... curiosity and willingness to put it together ( you have these last qualifications in abundance)
your flower in thread "''For Id 14102011MR1’’ is older... opened the day before... if you smell such a flower.. almost no scent... or very faint.... do not inhale too deeply... many small pollinators hide in the nectar tube...ha ha
... you almost took me from the floral world back to my Histopath section and formalin !!! Thank God you drove back to the world of perfumed flowers and pollen. Thank you it was interesting reading 
I love the fragrance of this flower. Here is mine. 
here is one more photo of the flower, but from a different plant.
Place : Jaipur, Rajasthan
Date  :  November 2010

Habitat : Cultivated

Plumeria obtusa for sure
This is the flower I knew as Phandhara (White) Chapha. I remember making finger rings from this flower in my childhood. 
Oh thanks, good to know flowers also smiles [?][?] 
Yes flowers smile, laugh, cry... even get mad... didn't you know?  as do the leaves? They even enjoy music and dance... I am not joking.... its serious business... scientific business that is... lot has been researched and written about.... And now I suspect they do not like cell-phone towers towering just above them...
...., thanks for this valuable information.  I know flowers laugh when they are happy, and cry when they are sad, but due to our own pre-occupation we fail to notice it.  Just once get fully identified with it and sit with
them for some time and you will notice it.

Yes...  ..., you are right.. most of us came to botany because of our love for greenery or for the love of flowers...
my current balcony is also full of flowers... all kinds.. warm weather tropicals , temperate zone and some cold weather  ones...  mostly very prolific ...
But the plants do not like to flower when people fight... I have  neighbors who periodically  fight a lot among themselves, and their vibrations  must be reaching my plants, they shut down, stop producing flowers,  when the crescendo of their fights is at the height, my plants stop blooming...   when they go on vacation (long ones) of 3 -4 months like visiting their sons in us or uk... my plants bloom like crazy... and look very happy...and peaceful... ( not based on seasons... they go sometimes in winter, sometimes in summer , so my plants are responding to absence of negative vibrations regardless of season..  since they do not announce their departures, we learn of their absence by the profuse blooming ...   as if the plants are dancing in joy...  then we do our sherlock homes and confirm that they are gone taking their their vibrations)
I have learnt over the years to overcome the neighbors fights ( to a degree, not fully yet) by meditating near the plants, getting into their xylem and travelling around inside coaxing... or just floating, and playing devotional
songs cds...  near the balcony... had to set up a separate music system with small speakers esp for the flowering plants..
My mom used to be able to talk to trees and they would visibly respond... I have seen it with my own eyes and even done some super8 movies... which at this point I dont own..  otherwise it would be a great small demo... I try
to talk the way my Mom did ,   I am not there yet... but communicating with plants and asking them what they like is a very good way to nurture them...
Mysteries of life.... older I get more mysteries present themselves... and dogmas fall away....
...., see what you started...  keep doing it... makes me remember... 
 
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Plumeria For ID : Nasik : 310713 : AK-2 : Attachments (1). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Plumeria seen on 11/4/13 at Gangajal Nursery, Nasik. For species confirmation please. 
plumeria obtusa pink dwarf

Thanks a lot for the id.
On searching, could this be Plumeria obtusa 'Dwarf Singapore Pink' ?
 
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Plumeria For ID : Nasik : 010813 : AK-1 : Attachments (2). 1 post by 1 author.
Plumeria seen at Gangajal Nursery with white flowers on 11/4/13.
... , would this be Plumeria obtusa 'Dwarf Singapore White' ? Kindly confirm id.
 
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Plumeria alba : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1).
Thanks, ...,

Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) states that Plumeria alba misapplied to Plumeria obtusa
May I request experts to solve this issue.
kindly see the leaf tip

Thanks, ....
Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) states that Plumeria alba misapplied to Plumeria obtusa
It matches well with Plumeria obtusa with apex broad with a notch or only a tiny point as per Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide 
 
 
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Plumeria alba (Family: Apocynaceae) :: Hooghly, WB:
It is another Plumeria species - Plumeria alba. The flowers and leaves are more elongated in this species than the other two Plumeria.
Species : Plumeria alba
Bengali name : GULANCHA
Date : 21-May-2009, 4.32 p.m.
Place : Garalgacha (Hooghly), West Bengal
Type : Garden, roadside
Thanks, ...
It matches well with Plumeria obtusa with apex broad with a notch or only a tiny point as per Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide
Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) states that Plumeria alba misapplied to Plumeria obtusa
Thanks ... Would you believe that just yesterday I found out that all my plumeria need to be rechecked! Specially after visiting - http://www.biolib.cz/en/taxon/id62948/ !!!
 
 
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requesting identification of this medium height tree with white flowers in a private society garden at Pune. The flowers look like Chapha flowers in Marathi but are much bigger in size
This plant looks like Plumeria alba.
Thanks, ...
It matches well with Plumeria obtusa with apex broad with a notch or only a tiny point as per Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide
Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) states that Plumeria alba misapplied to Plumeria obtusa
Thank you for the Id and the link to Trees of Delhi. It was very useful.
 
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efloraofindia:'' which Plumeria species is this at Pune :03042014: MR-1: 9 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2).
Mar 2014 Pune
Requesting identification of this Plumeria species at a housing society garden
attaching one more image of leaves
Plumeria obtusa
The leaves are pointed not obtuse.
Thank you ... for the Id. Promila ji as per Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) leaves of Plumeria obtusa have apex broad with a notch or only a tiny point. ... as per this book is the plant that I have posted Plumeria obtusa var. obtusa.
Leaves are more than 20cm in length, slightly hairy stalk and underneath on the main nerve. Also noticed that the stalk of the inflorescence was hanging down. At first I thought that it was damaged but it is not so.
Can this be Plumeria obtusa Cultivar: Hanging Windmill ? ref
Also noticed that the first flower which bloomed had 6 petals while the rest in the inflorescence are now with 5 petals

I won''t be surprised if it turns out to be the elusive P. alba. The leaf shape matches. Close up of leaf margin should help.
Thank you ... attaching pictures of leaf margin .
I think P. obtusa only.
Thank you ...
 
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Plumeria For ID : Muscat : 120714 : AK-24 : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1).
Cultivated Plumeria seen in one of the gardens in Muscat with White flowers blooming throughout the year.
Plumeria alba?

Looks like Plumeria hybrid magnificent.


Plumeriaspecies in India & eFloraofindia with details & some keys
Is it not Plumeria obtusa as per Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006) ?
We should see the leaves before finally deciding the cultivar.  Even both the cultivars have obtuse leaves but other character full side view of flowering stem and leaf and leaf stem play an important role in any plant. 
Yes Plumeria obtusa, very common in Delhi.
Thanks for the id.
 
Plumeria For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 17SEP14 : AK-21 : 7 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (1).
Seen on 26/7/2014 in Lalbagh.
Plumeria obtusa?
Kindly confirm id.
Some of the leaves are not obtuse. Could it be P. alba.
efi page on Plumeria obtusa. No efi page on P.alba so far. 
Pl. click Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide By Pradip Krishen (2006).
As per this it's Plumeria obtusa
For me it is Plumeria obtusa.  ... is correct.
Plumeria obtusa
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Plumeria obtusa :: TMC Biodiversity Park :: 15 APR 18 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 3 images.
TMC Biodiversity Park  Thane
Date: April 15, 2018 ... Altitude: about 15 m (50 feet) asl
Plumeria obtusa  L.   

 
 
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Tree for ID : 4 posts by 2 authors. 2 images.
Khimsar, Rajasthan, january 2018.

Pl. check 

Thank you. For me it would be Plumeria obtusa...

 

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